Podcast: Talking recent events for the Florida Gators

GatorCountry brings you a new podcast as we talk about the recent event surrounding the Florida Gators football program.

Andrew Spivey and Nick de la Torre talk about the Chris Steele situation and him transferring away from the Gators football program.

Andrew and Nick also talk about the recent decommitments for the Gators and what’s going on in recruiting.


Andrew:                 What’s up, Gator Country? Your man, Andrew Spivey, here with Nicholas de la Torre. Nicholas, we’re back. Man, it’s never a dead time, never off season. Never quiet.

Nick:                         Never quiet, and a Florida Gators’ off season, that’s not going to change this off season apparently. It’s been subpar. Would you say 10 days, going on close to two weeks now, a subpar 10 days for the Gators.

Andrew:                 It has. I guess, let’s just go ahead and get into it now. The first thing is Chris Steele decided to transfer. Well, I guess we should back it up. Jalon Jones transfers, and that was no surprise to you and I. We had heard those rumors. But then, Chris Steel transfers. Let me think of the best way to say this, Nick. You and I have talked about this off the air. I don’t think either one of us have a side in this. I don’t think either one of us are agreeing with either side in this. I think both sides have some questionable decisions made.

The reports are out there that Chris tried to move out of Jalon Jones’ dorm rooms. Those are correct. You and I can confirm that. But there’s also some homesickness from Chris Steele and that kind of stuff that also why he wanted to transfer. Let’s also say it like it is. A lot of people have gotten this timeline mixed up. Dan Mullen and his wife Megan flew out to California the day before Chris announced his transfer, tried to get things right. Credit to Dan Mullen. He went out there. He apologized, said, “We’ll make it right.” It was to deaf ears.

Nick:                         I think a lot of people, I don’t know. I didn’t read the ESPN story, I guess that was the one that made people think that Chris Steele, there was a chance he was coming back. Like you said, Dan Mullen and Megan flew out there on their own dime to meet with the Steele family in person. I think that’s a high character move on Mullen’s part. I also think it’s a high character move for Steele to then be resolute in his decision. It’s harder to say not to somebody face to face. They teach you that if you’re selling. Get face to face. It’s harder to say no to someone when they’re sitting right in front of you. Steele made his decision.

Andrew:                 Stuck with it.

Nick:                         Yeah. Made his decision. Told Dan in Gainesville. Then went home with his family and told Dan again in California. This is my decision. Thank you for coming out here. I don’t think there was any ill will between Chris Steele and Dan Mullen or Dan Mullen and Chris Steele. It didn’t work out for Steele in Gainesville. That’s that. He’s not coming back.

Andrew:                 I mean, it’s taken off and different things. Fans are upset about the stories that were written in defense of Chris Steele. Again, I definitely don’t think that’s the full story. I 100% don’t think that’s the full story. I think there’s more to the story for that. You and I have talked about this. It’s a tricky situation, because, no, we don’t know the full story. Also, let’s just say it like it is. Dan Mullen can’t respond. Dan Mullen is sitting here behind the scenes thinking everybody gets to voice their opinion but me. It sucks, because that’s the way it is, but we’ll never know the full story.

Nick:                         You don’t always need to. The kid wanted to leave, and that’s what he did.

Andrew:                 Yeah. Let’s also go back to this. I was talking to someone about this this weekend. My sister got married, so family was in. We were talking. I was talking with several different people. They were asking me about the Chris Steele thing. One person said, if the transfer portal is there, does he leave? I said, probably not, because it’s easy. It’s easy now. He’s going to go to wherever he goes, and he’s going to probably get a waiver and play as a freshman. It’s the world we live in now. It’s free agency.

Nick:                         Good for them. Coaches can leave whenever they want to. Let the kids leave go wherever they want to.

Andrew:                 Do you agree with me that if the transfer portal is there we may or may not be talking about Chris Steele leaving?

Nick:                         I mean, I can’t get into his mind and say for sure, but certainly the transfer portal being there makes it easier for kids, if they’re not happy in a situation, to leave and not have to burn a year of eligibility.

Andrew:                 Right.

Nick:                         I think a lot of kids in the past were just being held hostage though, because they didn’t want to waste one of their five potential years of eligibility, so they just stayed at places they weren’t happy with.

Andrew:                 That’s a conversation for a different day. You and I disagree there. That’s a conversation for a different day. I think that’s kind of the world we live in now, where if you don’t get your way you run away from problems. Again, different story, different day for that.

Nick, we’ve talked about this. Again, we talked about this off the air a lot. Sunday kind of blew up, where a bunch of players were tweeting at Chris Steele, calling him soft and talking about they beat him in practice. Chris responded and everything else. Nick, I say this, and I don’t have a problem with the players doing that. I mean, again, they know these guys better than anybody out there. If anybody has the right to do that, that’s them. I guess they were a little upset that he left. I just, me personally, and I’m probably going to take some heat for this, but I think everybody else should probably just lay off of the story.

Nick:                         Well, I think at this point, when this comes out, I think it’s time to move on from it.

Andrew:                 Right.

Nick:                         It is what it is. He’s not coming back. He left. It hurts the recruiting class, but don’t let yourself, if you’re on social media, I think there’s just a lot of people letting themselves get trolled by rival fanbases. Chris Steele leaves, and then Smoky Dave from Knoxville, TN tweets, there’s 5-7 more transfers coming. Then all of a sudden you and I are having to deal with questions from Gator fans. Who are the other five guys transferring? What are you talking about? Well, I heard it somewhere. No. You didn’t hear it. You got trolled by a Georgia fan or a Tennessee fan.

Andrew:                 Right.

Nick:                         Jalon Jones had his own issues. Jaydon Hill was not involved in that at all, other than he was assigned to live with Jalon Jones. Jaydon Hill had nothing to do with any of that stuff that Jalon Jones got wrapped up in.

Andrew:                 Jalon Jones isn’t going anywhere.

Nick:                         Jaydon Hill isn’t going anywhere.

Andrew:                 I mean, Jaydon Hill isn’t going anywhere.

Nick:                         Chris Steele had nothing to do with Jalon Jones. Then we’re answering questions. What did Chris Steele do? He didn’t do anything. He wasn’t happy at Florida.

Andrew:                 Yeah. That’s the biggest notion that’s out there. Listen, people has asked me, that’s kind of a crazy reason to leave. I don’t know. I don’t know how that situation, for me, and I guess I may be a sissy or whatever you want to call me. Whatever. If police start interrogating me, I’m going to feel a certain type of way. I’m not going to lie about that. That’s just me. If the police start interrogating me about something I didn’t do, I’m going to feel a certain type of way. My parents are going to feel a certain type of way if my name is in a police report. So, I can understand that as well.

I mean, what was the rumor? Keon Zipperer was transferring already. Lloyd Summerall wasn’t going anywhere. Well, Lloyd Summerall, Kaiir Elam, Trent Whittemore, Chris Bogle are on campus already, so that turned out to be a lie. You got trolled by a lot of fanbases. Listen, I saw the stories. Dan Mullen did his own part of trolling. It’s kind of like you’re taught very early in school. Don’t give it, if you can’t take it. Right now, Florida’s taking it. Florida State took it for a while. Florida’s taking it right now. Best way to do that is change it.

Nick:                         Just look where you’re getting your news from. Don’t get it from rival fans on Twitter.

Andrew:                 Or rival reporters. Pretty much what it is. I think what made last week worse, Nick, is the sudden departures of several guys in the 2020 class. Several people have tried, and this might have been a situation where they got it from rival fanbases, but this had nothing to do with Chris Steele. It was pretty much a coincidence, unfortunately. Just bad timing that it happened when it did. Those guys were guys that were highly ranked guys for the most part and wanted to take visits. It happens every year with early commits, guys that commit early. If you go back and look at what Florida had in the 2020 class and the 2019 class a couple years ago, it was monstrous. Half those guys aren’t around no more. It was it is. It’s what happens when you take early commits. It’s going to happen everywhere. Except for Clemson.

Nick:                         I was about to say. Except Clemson.

Andrew:                 Well, something happens at Clemson when you commit. It’s like you give your heart and soul. It’s like you have to give your left leg to Dabo, and you don’t get it back if you don’t stay committed. Blood oath or some trash.

You know what I’m saying, Nick? I hope that came out as clear as I was trying to make it. It is what it is. As bad as it was, it was just a coincidence that it happened. I mean, I don’t know how else to explain it besides it was just a coincidence that it happened when it did and made everything such a bad week.

Nick:                         You don’t think that the decommits, what a lot of people are thinking is that the decommits are a reaction to what’s going on currently at the time.

Andrew:                 No. I don’t think so, because again, and I said this, I mean, I guess we won’t know this fully until later on down the road a little bit when it gets closer to Signing Day, but for the most part Dan Mullen has handled the situation about as best as he could. I think he’s been, Dan’s very good at getting out in front of things and talking to parents. Again, I think him going out and seeing Chris Steele was good as well. I think it was just a situation where it wasn’t a reaction. It was just coincidence, because I don’t think that there is a reaction this. I mean, again, it wasn’t good that Mullen didn’t allow Chris Steele to move, but at the same time, Mullen’s done the best he could to fix the problem.

Nick:                         Yeah. It was just a little too late.

Andrew:                 It was. It was a little too late. Again, I think, and this is where it becomes tricky, because it’s two people accusing Jalon Jones of rape, but it’s just one of those things. It’s a tricky situation, because it’s a player. It’s kids that should be in high school and everything else. It’s just a tricky situation all around, in my opinion.

Nick:                         Yeah. The 2020 decommits are one thing, because that’s this class. The 2021 decommits, I’m not getting all up in arms about a kid who’s currently still a sophomore in high school decommitting.

Andrew:                 I made a long post on Gator Country about that. I said really, outside of Demarkus Bowman a couple weeks ago committing to Clemson, you really haven’t had a big loss as far as the 2020 class goes. I know some people said, we lost Carson Beck. I said, I guess you did, but you got your quarterback. It’s not like losing Carson Beck cost you Anthony Richardson. You got him back in the class. You got your guy that at one time everyone in America was happy to get for Florida. You and I have said this before. He fits what Dan Mullen wants to do to a tee. I don’t think it’s a bad move at all that you got him back.

Really, outside of Demarkus Bowman, what have you lost in the 2020 class? The answer is nothing. You haven’t lost anybody yet that you wanted. Is that going happen? Sure. It happens every year you lose somebody you want. Right now, as we talk about this, what is today? May 14. We’re taping this on Tuesday, May 14. You haven’t lost anybody. You have your big cookout weekend coming up and looks to be a very good visitors list coming up. Everything is okay.

Now, we can go ahead and start talking about this a little bit. Is there some problems Dan Mullen has to address in his recruiting office? Absolutely. He’s still looking to fill some positions. He has his head of recruiting in Chuck Cantor that was let go. You have to fill his spot. You have the uncertainty surrounding Otis right now, who has been accused of his own problems. So, yes, there’s some issues that Dan Mullen has to fix in his recruiting office, but right now he has addressed them yet. He’s taking care of it. He’s being that guy, so we’ll see where things go. I don’t see this Chris Steele thing filtering over into recruiting.

Do you? What’s your opinion? I don’t want to say you’re on the outside looking in, because that’s not fair at all. You know this very well. From your perspective with recruiting, what do you see?

Nick:                         I am always of the opinion that, yeah, could it affect somebody? Yeah. Because you’re dealing with 16, 17-year-old people.

Andrew:                 Right.

Nick:                         Their minds are going to change from breakfast to lunch. So, yes, could it. Should it? No. Like we’ve said before in the past, if that’s a reason, there’s reasons why you should go to a school, and one of them is not because somebody transferred.

Andrew:                 Right. I do say this. I think I posted this as well. The social media era we’re in, where when you see the bad news on Twitter, and you were about to post it, you post it. I don’t want to say it’s an excuse, because that’s not the right word to use. If you were going to decommit, you were going to decommit. But you put it out there and maybe you don’t take as much flack for it. From a social media standpoint, you see that stuff, and you’re like, oh no, what’s going on?

But that’s Dan Mullen is good at is getting guys on the phone. Miss Megan is very good at getting people on the phone and talking to those guys and settling them down. Keiwan Ratliff, those guys are good at doing that. So, I guess you could see it a little bit from a social media standpoint, they see the bad news. I just don’t see it in and of being an end all, end all, better call in the white flags, because the recruiting class is over with.

Nick:                         Yeah. I agree with you there.

Andrew:                 That’s my take. Again, for instance, Bryce Langston, the big 2021 defensive end that decommitted. He’s thinking about visiting this weekend. Right there, to me, that tells me the door’s not shut.

Nick:                         No. 2021 is so far out.

Andrew:                 At last check he was something like the #10 player in the country. I don’t follow the recruiting rankings like that as much. #10 player in the country. He’s from Ocala. He probably wants to go to Oregon. He probably wants to go to USC and take some visits. I’m not faulting him. If somebody is paying me to go somewhere, I’m going too.

Nick:                         Well, here’s one question. I didn’t bring it up to you before the show. Time to get out of California in recruiting?

Andrew:                 You know how I feel about this Florida as a program. I feel like when Florida is Florida, and they’re the elite of the elite programs, you should be able to recruit anywhere in the country. You should be able to go to California, and if you want a player, be able to get that player. Now, Elijah Blades backfired. Chris Steele backfired. Matt Corral, I don’t want to say backfired, because they could have got him if they wanted him. Anyway, you have your last three guys that you really wanted, or didn’t really want. Mullen didn’t really want Matt Corral, but three guys didn’t work out.

Do you be a little more careful? Absolutely. Again, the Alabamas, the Clemsons, the Georgias, they’re recruiting everywhere in the country. I still think you have to be able to recruit everywhere in the country. More focused on Florida, Georgia? Absolutely. My opinion, you’re a national program. You recruit nationally.

Nick:                         Got you.

Andrew:                 What do you think?

Nick:                         That’s what I think. I think if you’re Florida you recruit whoever you want, wherever you want. With that being said, I know you got some dogs in South Florida, and let’s spend some more time in my homeland.

Andrew:                 I agree with you. I’ll ask you this. You and I have talked about this multiple times. As long as you’re doing your job in recruiting. Let’s just go back to last year with Chris Steele. As long as you did your job and recruited Chris Steele, Jadon Hill, and Kaiir Elam all the same, what did you waste? A little bit of jet fuel on the private jet, or a little plane ticket, that couple hundred bucks to fly to California in recruiting season. That’s a bag of chips to most people with the University’s budget. What did you waste? You know what I’m saying? That two seconds it took you to text Chris Steele or that 10-minute conversation you had with him, what did you really waste?

Now, now that he got on campus and transferred, it’s a whole different story. But if you lose a kid, what do you really waste? We’re talking about recruiting staffs and this kind of stuff that’s big now.

Nick:                         I mean, the staffs across the country have blown up. It used to be, shoot, you had maybe one guy helping with recruiting?

Andrew:                 Right. That’s what I’m saying. You know what I’m saying? Do you agree with that, that while, yes, I understand you feel bad that you wasted the scholarship, but at the end of the day, what did you waste? If you don’t get a guy, what did you waste? I mean, not very much.

Nick:                         I mean, when we went into the fall Florida was over the scholarship limit, and they’re under it now.

Andrew:                 Right. That’s what it is. Let’s move on, Nick, and talk about some breaking news that happened Monday night. I say breaking news, because it just broke, but I think you and I kind of had a feeling it was coming. Diwun Black is going JUCO. Again, that’s not a surprise to a lot of people, as we had heard the rumors and knew that he was battling a long, long battle to get eligible. I will say this. Props to Diwun Black. He really turned it on his senior year and made up a lot of ground to even make it close, but he’s going to go JUCO.

Nick:                         I don’t a lot of people were surprised. I don’t like celebrating a kid, because this is potentially, or is life-altering for him, so you don’t want to celebrate the fact that he didn’t get into school, but a lot of people have gone the junior college route. Look at Trent Brown. Trent Brown had to go to a military prep school, and he’s now the highest paid offensive lineman in the history of the NFL. So, it’s not the end of the line or the end of the road for him. We’ll see in two years’ time where he goes. Dan Mullen reached and said, you’re always a Gator, and that we’re rooting for you, but a lot can change in two years, on both ends, on Florida’s end as well as Diwun’s. So, kind of just wait and see what happens in two years.

Andrew:                 I mean, everybody takes different paths to get to where they are. Obviously, the easiest path is to go straight to college and get prepared and get out of there. I will say this. Diwun Black will learn more about Diwun Black in these two years of JUCO than he’s ever learned about himself. We’ve all watched Last Chance U and all these different things. JUCO’s no joke. It tests your love for the game. It tests your love for wanting to get to college, all that stuff. We’ll see.

As long as he does what he does and continues to be a good player, I think Florida has a really good shot at getting him back. What Dan Mullen and his wife did to stay in touch and help him as much as they legally could from an NCAA standpoint, I think Diwun has a lot of respect for those guys. He’s known them for a while. I think Florida has a chance to get him back, as long as he does what he’s supposed to do on and off the field.

Nick:                         That’ll be interesting to see. Florida’s had a good little run with junior college kids getting into school. Dre Massey. Already mentioned Trent Brown, Lucas Krull. Who else? Put somebody else on the board. I’m blanking right now.

Andrew:                 Noah Banks.

Nick:                         Noah Banks. Yeah. Someone on the message board said Reggie Nelson was the last Florida Gator to come from JUCO. I’m like, that’s not even close to being true.

Andrew:                 No. You had the receiver under Urban. You had a lot of guys since then. They’ve had tons of guys since then. Will Muschamp seemed like he was recruiting guys every year. What was it, Darious Cummings? He had Darious Cummings come in. He had a lot of guys come in. I mean, it’s all about that wandering math credit. You better have it, and that kind of stuff.

Nick:                         That damn math credit.

Andrew:                 That damn math credit. Yeah. Again, I’ll say this, and that is best of luck to Diwun. I really hope he goes and buckles down and takes care of things. We talked about this a second ago, but Kaiir Elam, Lloyd Summerall, Chris Bogle, and Trent Whittemore are already on campus. There’s the question marks. Again, things look better and look good that they’ll get on campus. RJ Henderson and Keon Zipperer both took their ACTs recently, and everything looks good that they should be good. So, there is a couple question marks to get in, but we had heard Diwun was the guy who had the most question marks and had the toughest road to getting into college.

Nick:                         Yeah. We’ll see with the other guys. It’s not as good as enrolling early, in terms of being a spring enrollee, but enrollee in Summer A was really beneficial. I remember Tyler Jordan did it, and he talked about how much that helped him. Just from the standpoint of, you’re not really working out with the coaches. You’re just working out with Savage, but it’s just an extra two, three months that you get in the program, in the strength program. It’s not like as soon as you enroll in Summer B, and you’ve got all this new school stuff, new living situation going on, and then you’re also learning a playbook and learning all these things. It’s just really beneficial, I think, in my mind, to get in during Summer A.

Andrew:                 It’s, what, about a month? Not a month. Yeah. About a month that they have over the rest of their guys before all of them enroll in Summer B. That’s another month to kind of get acclimated to everything before you start fall camp in the fall. That way all the newness has worn off. You’re comfortable. You can focus on class and football, and then the season and everything else. Like you said, it’s another month with Savage. A guy like Kaiir Elam, he’s a guy that now needs to step up. He needs to be ready to go and play with Chris Steele leaving. You need that depth there.

Then you look at Lloyd Summerall and Chris Bogle, two guys that are expected to, I don’t want to say play a lot, but to be able to get in there and rush the passer a little bit. Both those guys need to gain some weight. Then Trent Whittemore, another month to kind of get his body right and figure out where he’s going to play. Do you agree with that?

Nick:                         Yeah. With Trent it’s where are you going to start, safety, receiver? Where do you put him? I mean, receiver is pretty stacked right now, and safety has questions. I’m not necessarily thinking that he would be a guy that would start his first year, but just where does he start his career?

Andrew:                 Right. Exactly. Where do you expect him to start?

Nick:                         I wouldn’t be surprised with either safety or receiver.

Andrew:                 Okay.

Nick:                         Just not sure. Not sure really where.

Andrew:                 I personally think you put him at safety.

Nick:                         Yeah. I mean, you’re going to have question marks at receiver. I just think you have less question marks at receiver than you have at safety, so probably start him there. Just based on numbers.

Andrew:                 Right. Yeah. I like him at safety. I think he’s a pretty good receiver as well, but I think he starts out at safety. Could be wrong there. I guess, in agreement, time for Elam to step up?

Nick:                         Yeah. I mean, he’s going to get an opportunity to play this year.

Andrew:                 It’s kind of there. I guess, give me your take on that defensive back room now, post Chris Steele?

Nick:                         I mean, here’s the thing. Yeah. Chris Steele is a great player. Let’s say he stays out in the Pac 12. I think he’ll be an All-Pac 12 player before it’s all said and done. Would he have helped Florida this year? Yes. Don’t forget that you have CJ Henderson and Marco Wilson and Trey Dean. Those were going to be your three starters, whether or not Chris Steele was on campus or not.

Andrew:                 Right.

Nick:                         You were going to have those three guys starting, and it was Chris Steele would be the first guy coming in off the bench. To me, that didn’t change at all. CJ Henderson hasn’t left. Marco Wilson is only getting healthier, and Trey Dean hasn’t gone anywhere.

Andrew:                 I think the biggest thing that you could see it hurting is if you have a situation where CJ Henderson or Marco Wilson miss a game. Then it becomes who steps in to play Trey’s position? That’s where I think Chris would have gotten in there. If everybody stays healthy, it’s one of those things where it’s like, okay, it is what it is. Next year is when I think you will see that you would have seen Chris Steele playing time, in 2020.

Nick:                         Yes.

Andrew:                 Again, situation for Kaiir Elam to step up, and a situation for Florida to recruit and get better.

Nick:                         Where do you see Kaiir ending up?

Andrew:                 I really like Kaiir Elam at corner. When he gets hands on you, good luck. Good luck. I mean, Matt, we all know what Matt does. Matt used to be the intimidator. He could knock your lights out when he hit you, that kind of stuff. Don’t get me wrong, Kaiir Elam is every bit of that. We saw him make some hits in the Under Armour game there, but he’s got the speed and long arms that when he locks onto you, good luck getting away from him. Where do you see him?

Nick:                         I think that. I mean, he’s 6’1” and probably 180, 185 pounds. I remember watching him work out at Friday Night Lights, and thought he had good footwork. I think certainly he’s a guy, and he’s got that, you talked about it, to me, when you say that guy that puts his hands on you, that’s that competitor, that dog.

Andrew:                 Right.

Nick:                         He’s got that. I like him. I think he’s certainly, where you are now, starts off at cornerback, and he’ll probably stay there, unless he grows out of the position, I guess.

Andrew:                 Right. I mean, that’s the thing. Again, just because he’s starting out at corner don’t mean he never moves or doesn’t end up being a better safety. He very well may be. I just think right now you have a better need at corner, and right now I think he fits that position very well. We’ll see. We’ll see what happens. Florida has the cookout this weekend. A lot of guys coming on campus. A lot of official visitors coming on campus. Kind of your last chance before the summer. It’s a big opportunity to kind of start laying that foundation, as guys make summer decisions and fall decisions. The guys that are coming on unofficials, it’s a chance to set up to get that official in the fall. I said this on the message board. I would not be surprised at all if Mullen didn’t push for a few commitments, just to get the momentum back.

Nick:                         Yeah. You certainly have gotten plenty of bad press in the past 10 days, so pushing for a commitment. It’s always, to me, really interesting. When do you push, how do you push? Each kid’s probably different. Each situation is different. Florida could use some good news right now.

Andrew:                 Exactly. Any final thoughts, I guess, on the events going around and everything like that?

Nick:                         No. I think you just got to take it in stride really. Not every day is going to be sunshine and rainbows. You’re dealing with a lot of volatility with, when you include recruiting, from 16 years all the way up through your team, 20, 21, 22-year-old kids. You’re dealing with a lot of hormones and a lot of emotions and a lot of different situations. To me, weather the storm. But dang, Dan Mullen, when they’re playing football games everyone is all about it. I think he’s trying to schedule some games for next week. Schedule some scrimmages. Can we do that?

Andrew:                 I’ll say this. Everybody asks me my opinion on Dan Mullen. Everyone that you talk to around the country will tell you one thing. Dan Mullen can coach football. Period. It’s what Dan Mullen can do. He can coach some ball. He has to weather this storm. Again, I’m a big Jim McElwain supporter and everything else. I take heat for that. It is what it is. I’ll support Jim McElwain and say with the right people around him he could have succeeded. The department as a whole and everything around there is still a process that Dan Mullen is building. There is some, for instance, the facilities. We still talk about that. He’s still building that. Jim McElwain was still in the process of getting a bigger budget for the recruiting department. That’s what Dan Mullen is still doing.

Let’s just be honest with the recruiting thing as well. Dan Mullen didn’t know Cordell Landers was going to get fired, and he didn’t know Otis was going to get in trouble with the law. He’s had some bad things there. You could say, maybe he shouldn’t have hired those guys. Maybe he shouldn’t have, but it’s a process. Rome wasn’t built overnight, and this program wasn’t going to get fixed overnight. You agree with that?

Nick:                         Yeah. It’s a process. You certainly have no idea that guys that you hired are going to not be there.

Andrew:                 Threaten to bomb their girlfriend’s cars.

Nick:                         Yeah. I mean, there’s really no way to predict that that was ever going to happen.

Andrew:                 Yeah. Anyway. All right, Nick. We’ll be back next week. We’ll recap the big cookout weekend. Tune into Gator Country this week. We’ll have a visitors list, and we’ll have all that good stuff. Softball goes out, #5 national seed after going out to Aggie land and taking care of the SEC Tournament. Kelly Barnhill, congrats, has 100 wins in her career. Goes out and does big things. This is a team that got hot at the right time. #5 overall seed. Looks like they will matchup in Tennessee in Round 2 with a chance to go back to OKC. If you don’t win the championship, it’s not a successful season for a lot of people, but getting to OKC, or to Omaha for baseball, it’s a success.

Nick:                         Congratulations to the girls. That’s back to back SEC Tournament champions.

Andrew:                 Four straight regular seasons that were snapped, but that conference tournament is still there. So, anyway, Nick, tell everybody where they can find us. We’ll get out of here. We’ll see everyone next week.

Nick:                         www.GatorCountry.com for all your Florida Gator news. The podcast is there in audio and transcript form. Find the podcast wherever you listen to your podcasts. Just search @GatorCountry. Subscribe. Never miss an episode. Do your social media thing. @GatorCountry on Facebook and Twitter. @TheGatorCountry on Instagram. I’m @NickdelaTorreGC. He’s @AndrewSpiveyGC.

Andrew:                 There you go. Guys, we appreciate it. We’ll see everyone next week. As always, chomp, chomp and go Braves.

Nick:                         You stay classy, Gator Country.


Andrew Spivey
Andrew always knew he wanted to be involved with sports in some capacity. He began by coaching high school football for six years before deciding to pursue a career in journalism. While coaching, he was a part of two state semifinal teams in the state of Alabama. Given his past coaching experience, he figured covering recruiting would be a perfect fit. He began his career as an intern for Rivals.com, covering University of Florida football recruiting. After interning with Rivals for six months, he joined the Gator Country family as a recruiting analyst. Andrew enjoys spending his free time on the golf course and watching his beloved Atlanta Braves. Follow him on Twitter at @AndrewSpiveyGC.