Podcast: Talking Brenton Cox transfer, plus Florida Gators football

GatorCountry brings you a new podcast as we talk about the latest news surrounding the Florida Gators football program.

Andrew Spivey and Nick de la Torre breakdown the Brenton Cox transfer to Florida, plus what he has to do in order to become eligible for the Gators in 2019.

Andrew and Nick also talk about how the latest scrimmage went for the Gators and what group stood out for Florida.

TRANSCRIPT:

Andrew:                 What’s up, Gator Country? Your man, Andrew Spivey, here with Nicholas de la Torre. Nicholas, you get close to fall camp, and you think adding and subtracting players isn’t going to happen very much, but in Gainesville the unexpected is always the expected.

Nick:                         Yeah. Never a dull day covering the Gators. I always say it.

Andrew:                 Yeah. The transfer portal has turned this into this, to what we got now. The transfer portal is a free agency. Let’s call it what it is. They can say they’re waivers, yada, yada. The transfer portal is free agency. That’s what it is. Gators benefited, landing five-star outside linebacker/defensive end Brenton Cox from Georgia, and just four days after he left the Georgia program, he’s in Gainesville. Big pickup for the Gators talent wise.

Nick:                         Moving quick.

Andrew:                 Moving quick.

Nick:                         I mean, entered the transfer portal on a Monday, August 5th, and you’re enrolled and in classes August 9th, Friday. I think some of the familiarity, and Dan Mullen didn’t mean to bash his old school. These are just facts. He said, when asked, did you have a prior relationship with Brenton Cox? Yeah. Somewhat. We recruited him when we were at Mississippi State, but he wasn’t coming to Mississippi State. The 11th ranked player in the country by ESPN isn’t going to Mississippi State unless he’s from Starkville or from somewhere in Mississippi.

Andrew:                 Right.

Nick:                         I think there was some familiarity during the recruiting process, and then there’s also a bunch of players on Florida’s roster that have played with him and had conversations with him. Obviously, a player of that talent and that skill level wanted to stay in the SEC, and what better place to do it than at Florida?

Andrew:                 The familiarity of him with Gainesville. He’s a guy that Mac and Randy Shannon and Geoff Collins, those guys, recruited. I told you this when I was going through in the spring. I went up and visited Brenton. It was a longshot that Florida was going to land him, but he was still someone that was in the area when I was going to visit Justin Fields and those guys. Stopped by and visited him. So, there’s that familiarity already with Gainesville. I think one thing that we talk about, but we don’t talk about a ton, and it’s something I thought we needed to hit on, was how popular Todd Grantham’s schemes are. We always talk about how good of a defensive coordinator he is, this, that, and the other, but what he does scheme-wise and what he was able to do with Jachai Polite is something that took notice around the country and took notice around the SEC. It’s a draw. It’s a draw to Gainesville.

Nick:                         Yeah. I mean, that’s a draw to Gainesville. I think getting another player, because when you look at it, Jeremiah Moon’s a redshirt junior, if I’m not mistaken. You’re going to lose Jonathan Greenard. Sure, you’ve got Khris Bogle, Mohamoud Diabate, but if a player of this caliber asks you to come, you don’t say no. We can maybe even get into how Dan Mullen is building the roster, and there’s been a lot of transfers, and there’s been some JUCO guys, stuff like that. I think it’s something he probably got comfortable doing at Mississippi State, like I alluded to or even said when talking about Brenton Cox, he kind of had to do that at Mississippi State. You weren’t going to get those guys to come to Starkville, so you had to do that.

Andrew:                 The better question, Nick, is if you don’t do it, if you don’t add these transfer portals, are you doing yourself more harm? Because, let’s face it, if Florida doesn’t add Brenton Cox, Ohio State, Alabama, LSU, those schools are going to be in the mix. Ohio State finished second for Brenton. So, are you falling behind if you don’t recruit these guys out of the transfer portal?

Nick:                         You could be. You could be. The transfer portal is still so new. It’s like the wild, wild West, man. The coaches are figuring it out. The players are figuring it out. The NCAA. I don’t even know if they give a crap. They’re just trying to keep their heads above water with everything going on. To me, yeah, if there’s loopholes to be exploited and to get around and to get in, then you figure them out. If there’s a great player that can make your team better who isn’t a junior in high school and not going to be the traditional recruiting method, and you can go and find someone who’s a sophomore or a junior or, heck, even a graduate transfer and makes your team better, go do it. To me, if it makes your team better, I don’t care if you went to Australia, like Miami got a 47-year-old punter from Australia. If that makes your team better, go to Australia. Go to New Zealand and find them.

Andrew:                 By the way, speaking of punters, are you upset that Johnny Townsend? Are you okay?

Nick:                         Why? Why would you do that? The podcast was going so well.

Andrew:                 Johnny Townsend will find a team, but I had to throw that out there. By the way, the guy from Miami, he might be getting close to applying for Social Security. He’s that old. He’s probably retired from his day job, and this is backup career.

I think that there is definitely an argument to be made that if you’re not adding some of these guys from the transfer portal you are falling behind. I also think there’s an argument to be made that they’re in the transfer portal for a reason. Now, let me say this. It’s a twofold, two-sided argument in a way, in my opinion, Nick. For instance, Brenton Cox, he was in there because he did something wrong. He and Kirby didn’t agree on things, so he went in the transfer portal. A guy like Tate Martell, he went because he wasn’t playing.

I think that you have to look at each circumstance as to why they’re in there. When we talk about a guy like TJ McCoy, for instance. If you’re another school, I think you’re comfortable taking a guy like TJ McCoy, because he was going to be a grad transfer, not going to play his year. I think you have to just look at every transfer and figure out why did they leave? Do they have good character? Do they fit what we’re trying to do?

Nick:                         That’s super tough, because you’re talking about, like with Cox, you’re talking about what an accelerated timeline that is. I think a lot of recruiting is trying to figure out, and you can speak to this better than I can, trying to figure out what kind of person this is, and they’re not just talking to mom, dad, brother, football coach. They’re talking to classmates. They’re talking to tutors.

Andrew:                 Counselors.

Nick:                         Counselors. They’re talking to the janitor that’s picking up trash from the locker room after a football game on Friday night. Hey, what does Bobby do off the field? How does he treat you? What kind of person is he? Because you’re in a situation where, and Florida’s had that with a string of off-season things that have happened, it can bring negative light onto you and to your program, so you really try to do your due diligence. When you’re at a program for three, four, five years, then you’re able to start doing that, but Dan Mullen got hired in December, or November. Then there’s a December signing period.

Andrew:                 Right.

Nick:                         It’s kind of like, you got six weeks to figure out half your first class, and you don’t have that due diligence time. I’m not poking anything at them. I’m just saying. I’m trying to speak to how much goes into recruiting, but when you’re in this transfer portal situation it’s accelerated. You don’t have that time. It’s hard, like you said, to try to figure out fit. Does he fit our team? Does he fit our goals? Does he fit our standard?

Andrew:                 I think it also, I don’t want to say puts more pressure on you in the recruiting game, but it also does in a way. Listen, 10 years ago it was 10 recruiters. I mean, 9 coaching staff and then you had your Director of Recruiting and maybe one other guy. So, you had maybe 11 guys recruiting out there. Now you got 20 to 30 to 40 guys recruiting, so you’re able to gather more information on it.

This is a topic that’s been on my mind a little bit more because of this, and I’ll ask you this as well. I think it makes you recruit guys longer now. For instance, let me just throw this out there. A like Demarkcus Bowman, that’s the hot topic of recruiting for all Florida fans this year. Committed to Clemson, everything like that. Do you stay on him longer and continue to talk to him in case he goes to Clemson and gets back in the transfer portal, to keep that relationship going? Do you do that with guys more so now than you did two years ago, before the transfer portal?

Nick:                         I think it’s always, ever evolving. Obviously, they can’t have contact. Let’s say I’m a commit, and Florida’s been recruiting me, and I sign with Clemson. I’m unhappy after. When I’m a freshman at Clemson, Dan Mullen can’t be recruiting me.

Andrew:                 Right.

Nick:                         He can’t be in contact with me. But it’s probably something that you’ve got a list of guys, and you’re probably watching games and looking around. I think, yeah.

Andrew:                 I’m saying do you need to keep that contact going more so. For instance, and I’m not saying this with Bowman. Bowman is a guy at Lakeland that you would have talked to no matter what, but a guy in Georgia, for instance. Do you continue to talk to him all the way until he signs more now than you do two years ago with the transfer portal, just to keep the relationship, so if he does go to Georgia and has a falling out?

Nick:                         Yeah. I see what you’re saying. Yeah. I guess there’s also a give and take there too, because how much time are you committing to we don’t think we have a real shot with this, but we want to keep up that communication level? Versus is it a situation where we’re taking away from communication with a guy that we actually have a chance to land this cycle and could potentially play as a freshman or a sophomore, versus let’s just keep the lines of communication open with somebody who we don’t feel strongly about getting this year, in hopes that it doesn’t work out where he goes. I think that’s something you got to figure out.

Andrew:                 Yeah. It’s that evolving process that I think it’s like you just said, you have to adjust, and you have to be able to adapt to every new thing that comes out. What we talked about leads me into something that I want to get into. You and I have, I don’t want to say dodged this subject, but we kind of have, in a way. That is John Huggins kicked off the team on Saturday. Saturday, correct, Nick? Or Sunday? Saturday, right?

Nick:                         Saturday. Yes.

Andrew:                 Saturday. He was kicked off the team. There has been a debate, and I’m not going to name names, but people were after certain reporters over questions, that kind of stuff. We’re not going to get into all that, but let me ask you this, Nick. Are you satisfied with what’s going on in the program right now? Are you satisfied with how things are being handled?

Nick:                         Yeah. I think there’s many ways to look at it, and what the fans were angry about is saying that there’s a culture problem, and I don’t know if anyone in the media specifically said there’s a culture problem. Maybe it was the way that things were worded, and that’s the way that it was perceived from being read. What the fans are saying is, listen, there’s five instances. All five of those guys are off the team. Listen, I’ve been 18 years old, 19 years old. I’ve done dumb stuff, and I’ve wanted a second chance, and I’ve been given second chances, so I get that. I do think you have due process that needs to play out.

The thing that happens though is when you’re a school like the University of Florida or Alabama or Georgia or Oregon, you’re not just a private citizen who can have these things play out and have due process play out behind the scenes. You’re a brand. You’re out in the public eye, so when something happens as a football player at the University of Florida, it’s not just a football player is in trouble. It’s a Florida Gator is in trouble. Someone at the university, a student at the University of Florida is in trouble. That’s just the stage that they’re on.

I think it’s really difficult for a 17, 18, 19-year-old kid to realize all those ramifications. I can’t just mess up like a regular college student, because they can be in a class with a kid and that kid can get kicked out. One of their classmates, who’s not an athlete, a student athlete, can get kicked out of school for something, and that’s not going to be a headline. But if they find a gram of weed in the football player’s car, now there’s headlines about it. That’s just the nature of being in that spotlight.

Andrew:                 You have to be aware of your surroundings at all times. Period. End of discussion. You’re under a different microscope than the normal student.

Nick:                         100%.

Andrew:                 It’s athletes in general. Pro athletes. How many times have we seen pro athletes get a speeding ticket for going 100 miles an hour, and, listen, I’m not saying that’s cool or anything, but it becomes a media report? You and I get a ticket for going 100 miles an hour, and we don’t get nothing.

Nick:                         Yup. Shoot. Points on my license and a big fine.

Andrew:                 Right. But you know what I’m saying. So, let me say this. I don’t think there’s a culture problem, and I don’t think nobody made that out to be. Do I think there are some questions that are maybe arising from this? Absolutely. This is five. Do I think Dan Mullen has handled it by kicking them off? Yes. I think there is, and I don’t want this to come off the wrong way, but I think the world we’re living in today, more so than ever before, you have to gather all the facts first. There’s so much he said/she said, blaming people, not being true, in all lines of violence now, that you have to wait until the end. That’s just kind of where it is now. I will say this. I do think that if an accusation comes up, they should be immediately suspended. Period. End of discussion. Suspended until it is fixed, details are out there.

Nick:                         Also, what you get into with this, and when you’re a school like Florida, is perception can be reality. If the perception is that you have a culture problem, and that you’re allowing these things to happen, then does that become reality? I think this story became a national story. I didn’t anticipate it being a national story. The way that it all happened, and the way that it happened the way that it did is that there were rumors going around about John Huggins, and he hadn’t been around. I was so high on John Huggins. He had an amazing spring. Thought he was going to be a guy, and he was going to be a guy that was going to play a lot for Florida this year. Him not being around, that was a big deal for the football team.

Then we hear rumors about stuff going on off the field. A bunch of the reporters, we put in a public records request. Hey, anything in a police report that involves John Huggins. Unfortunately for Dan Mullen, we got that email the night before we spoke with him. We’re all going through the police report, and that’s what ends up being brought up. I didn’t anticipate it becoming the national story, I think, that it was.

Andrew:                 Right. Listen, there’s nobody to blame in this situation but John Huggins. I mean, that is what it is. He’s the one who committed the act of violence in October. I don’t think anybody that was with you guys in the media room asking the questions or writing the stories or anything else in our line of business is wrong for this. I don’t know that Dan Mullen is wrong for it as well. I think we have to hold that person accountable for it. The national perception out there right now is very different, because of what took place at Ohio State last year, and the way it went about, and honestly the way Zack Smith’s still talking to this day, I think has shined a negative light on the NCAA in particular, to where any crime or whatever is boosted up more than it was before.

Nick:                         Yeah. The other thing, and I saw a lot of it. I mean, you and I are never going to get political on this, but I see a lot of it across, not just in sports, but everywhere. It’s kind of just like attacking the media and picking sides. I can tell you nobody in the media room when we’re during press conferences, nobody’s rooting against Florida. You and I have been through 4-7 seasons, 4-8 seasons. It’s a lot more fun, and you get a lot more clicks. That’s what everyone likes to say, you just wrote that for clicks. You get a lot more clicks when the team’s doing well.

Andrew:                 You make more money when the team does well. Period. It is what it is.

Nick:                         It’s more fun. It’s more fun to watch a good product. 2013 wasn’t fun to watch. Last year was fun to watch. Watching Jim McElwain’s first season, even though there were hiccups and it didn’t look pretty at all times, watching him take Florida to the SEC Championship, that was fun.

Andrew:                 Right.

Nick:                         No one in the media, in the room, the people that I work with, the people that I know, none of us are out to get Florida. It’s not our goal to bring the program down. We just have a job, and our job doesn’t always go in line and run succinctly with what Florida wants to do. Part of being a journalist is holding people accountable, holding them accountable when things are going bad and holding them accountable when things are going good. So, I think really it kind of just blew up. I really didn’t anticipate it becoming what it did.

Andrew:                 Listen, we make more money when the team does well. I sure as hell enjoy it a lot more when things are going well. Listen, I enjoy recruiting a lot more when I’m not having 50 people on the message board griping because it’s some one-star that had an offer from Florida and FAU. That is what it is. I’ll never hide that fact. It’s a lot more fun. Listen, when Florida wins and Florida goes to the National Championship game, you and I get to go. So, that perception that the media hates Dan Mullen, this kind of stuff, I think is a little construed. I can only speak for you and I, but I enjoy going to bowl games. I enjoy doing that. It’s free vacation for me. I’m cool with that.

You and I are a little different, in that I think you and I stray away from talking about the bad, but I thought this was a subject that we had tiptoed around a little bit, for our own reasons. It’s not a comfortable situation to talk about, but I thought we just needed to talk about it and bring it up. Listen, I don’t think there’s a culture problem there. Is there some things that maybe need to be addressed? Is there something that maybe Dan Mullen needs to look at a little deeper? Sure. Did getting rid of one of his support staff members that did that help with the problem? Maybe. We’ll see. There is some questions to be asked. It’s nobody’s fault but that person who’s committing the crime.

Nick:                         Yeah. Listen, I think Dan Mullen is correct. I don’t think there is a culture problem, and I don’t know that anyone has said that. I think Dan Mullen is correct in letting due process play out. There are differences though if you’re being accused of something by the school versus a crime.

Andrew:                 Right.

Nick:                         In the court of law all you have to do is poke a reasonable doubt, and you’re off. The standard of proof is much lower when being accused in a scholastic, in a school setting. I do think Dan Mullen is correct in letting the process play out. We don’t know what’s going on. We’re not privy to all the details that he has, so I agree that he should let the process play out. I think it’s fair for journalists to ask him those questions.

Andrew:                 There’s three sides of every story.

Nick:                         Yours, mine, and the truth.

Andrew:                 That’s right. Let’s move on. Let’s move on and get to talking here. The Gators had a scrimmage on Sunday. Nick [INDISTINCT] talked about that on Monday. We’re taping this on Tuesday. He said it was a much cleaner scrimmage. From some of the reports you and I got, some of the vets played a little bit more and had big games, and then some of the young guys had big games. Damien Pierce had a big game. One guy that I heard had a great day and was told maybe the best day of him being in a Gator uniform, was Jacob Copeland. We talk about that receiver room, Nick, but you can never have too many playmakers.

Nick:                         No. Here’s one I want to ask you. Several of the wide receivers that we spoke with on Tuesday made this comparison.

Andrew:                 Okay.

Nick:                         Obviously, they’re different, but a lot of them said the skillset is very similar, and they said Kadarius Toney and Jacob Copeland, very similar skillsets and what they do on the football field. What do you think?

Andrew:                 I will say that Jacob Copeland’s a fast kid. I don’t know if he has that joystick movement.

Nick:                         That’s exactly what Josh Hammond said. He said, Kadarius Toney’s got that more like that video game, where you’re just controlling him by flicking your thumb around.

Andrew:                 I think that Copeland is a little bit more comfortable with the receiver position, because he’s played that. I think that his straight-line speed is very, very good, and his attention to detail, that kind of stuff, is there. There is zero doubt in my opinion though. Jacob Copeland, you can line him up at running back. You can line him up at wildcat quarterback. You can line him up at any of the receiver positions. Get him the ball. So, in that comparison, yes. I just think that Copeland’s a guy that if you can get the ball in his hands and allow him to go make a play, 9 times out of 10 he’s going to go make that play.

Nick:                         I agree with that. It’s just a matter of opportunity.

Andrew:                 Staying healthy.

Nick:                         Staying healthy is obviously the biggest thing. He’s healthy right now, has continued to stay healthy. The biggest thing for me is that I think he got discouraged last year.

Andrew:                 Yes.

Nick:                         He let his chin fall and let his head go down, and that’s natural. Not saying he shouldn’t have done that. Not saying I wouldn’t have done that in the same situation. I think he’s back in good spirits now, and I think he understands this is a very deep room. I think all the wide receivers understand, like there might not be one of us that gets 1,000 yards this year.

Andrew:                 It’s a competition.

Nick:                         Might only catch 40 ball this year, but, yeah, I think he understands that. It’s the competition daily to get those reps that put you in a position to ultimately … Listen, all of those guys, Trevon Grimes, Van Jefferson, Hammond, Swain, KT, Rick Wells, Jacob Copeland, they all want to play in the NFL, and they know that you’ve got to put stuff on tape, but I think there’s a real unselfishness in that room where they’re not letting reps and stuff like that affect them.

Andrew:                 Right. It’s a situation too where if Jacob Copeland’s doing well on the field, then Kadarius Toney’s going to get a little less attention from the defense, or if Van Jefferson’s doing well, Tyrie Cleveland’s going to get a little less attention or Trevon Grimes is going to get a little less attention. So, I say this in comparison, for instance, with my Atlanta Falcons. When Calvin Ridley’s doing well, Julio Jones gets less attention, but 9 times out of 10, Calvin Ridley gets less attention because of Julio Jones.

Nick:                         Yeah. That’s just the give and take of it all.

Andrew:                 Right. It’s just the give and take of it all, and it’s a situation where you want to have a group that is very deep and a group that’s playing a lot.

Nick:                         Agree with you 100% on that one.

Andrew:                 Any other details out of that scrimmage that you think we should hit on?

Nick:                         I think the biggest one is that it was cleaner, and that’s what you want to hear in Year 2. That it’s clean, that things are running smoothly, and they’re running faster than they have. To me, not only do I think that there’s a skill gap level between Florida and Miami, I think that’s another huge separator between Florida and Miami, the fact that Florida’s in Year 2, and they’re running things clean. Josh Hammond, who’s been around for four years said, “Really last year we had 15 practices in the spring.” He goes, “And when we got to fall camp we were still learning things. Like when we get to that first game, we’re still learning what to do, where to be, what’s expected of us.” He’s like, “Now we know that.” I think that is really changing the tempo and the expectation from Florida this year.

Andrew:                 Right. I think with that becomes able to in a game week add a wrinkle here or add a wrinkle there, and that will help overall with the offense and the defense as well, just the overall feel.

One other thing I wanted to hit on with the scrimmage was everything we heard was the first team OL looked good. I think that when you look at this team in general, you and I have hit on this, everyone’s hit on this, this offense is going to go as much as the offensive line allows it to go. What have you heard? What did Dan Mullen say about that as well?

Nick:                         I think losing Noah Banks, and that was my big question to Dan Mullen is how much did Noah Banks do? Was he being considered? I had been told if Noah Banks was healthy he would be one of those eight guys that John Hevesy is looking for, but he hadn’t been at practice for over a week. He had an incident. It was after. It wasn’t on the practice field. It was at night after a practice when he had another one of his epileptic seizures, episodes. I’m not sure how to exactly explain that. I think that the fact that you lose that versatility, quite frankly, he could play left guard, left tackle, right guard, right tackle, so that would help you if someone goes down. I think they’re finding those guys.

To me, Ethan White. I think you’re going to see Ethan White Week 1, or Week 0. I don’t know what to call it. I keep going back and forth. I figure you’re going to see Ethan White, and I’m really excited to see what Ethan White and what some of the freshmen that are going to be asked to play, what they do when they’re playing against other guys, when they’re not just going up against their guys in practice.

Andrew:                 Yeah. The Gators found out on Monday that they’ll be going up against Miami starting quarterback Jarren Williams. I think that’s a shock to a lot of people. Do you agree with that, or was I just one of the few people who thought Tate Martell would be the guy?

Nick:                         Yeah. I think Tate Martell thought Tate Martell would be the guy. Jarren Williams, I mean, Jarren was probably the guy that, easily to say that he was the third?

Andrew:                 Right.

Nick:                         In terms of what people thought. If it was N’Kosi Perry, it was Tate Martell, who was it going to be of those two? I think Jarren even said, after it was announced, that I was a little surprised.

Andrew:                 Right. Yeah. Yes, it was a little bit of surprise, but at the same time, Jarren Williams is a heck of a football player and is a guy that Manny Diaz sat down with and tried his best to keep him in the program when he was thinking about potentially leaving. Jarren Williams is a strong-armed kid. He’s a kid that’s going to play some good ball. For me, Nick, and this is just me, and I don’t follow the Miami program nearly as close as a lot of people, but if I’m looking at the future, I’m glad Jarren Williams is starting this week, per se than any of the other two that have a lot less eligibility left than Jarren Williams

Nick:                         Yeah. In a position where Miami is, in a position where Manny is. I think he was asked today, and the line of questioning was probably, I’m not privy to it, and I don’t want to start any rumors, but the line of questioning was probably he was asked if he thinks he gets like a hometown discount, because he’s a Miami guy. He’s from the city of Miami.

Andrew:                 Yeah right.

Nick:                         He says, “No. I think I have to win, and if I don’t win, they’ll want me out of here.” So, I think the line of questioning was probably along the lines of are you doing this thinking of the future? And it’s like, yes, I am doing it thinking of the future. I also know that if I don’t win games right now I won’t have a future here.

Andrew:                 Yeah. I’ll be out of here. Yeah. For me, that’s the biggest thing. I think he’s a guy that, do I think he gives them the best chance to win now? Probably. I’m not sure that I can rely on Tate Martell. I mean, the guy transfers every time he gets mad. What we seen out of Perry last year was not good, so why not play Jarren Williams?

Nick:                         Yeah.

Andrew:                 It set off a whirlwind of events though. It looks like Tate Martell is going to practice on Tuesday. Again, we’re taping this on Tuesday afternoon. There were some interesting things that was going around. Tate Martell throwing his locker room nametag down and didn’t go to practice on Monday. If you’re looking for a quarterback, keep checking the transfer portal?

Nick:                         Maybe. I mean, swing and miss, I guess.

Andrew:                 If you can’t play here, keep going down the line. Surely somebody will take you and let you play.

Nick:                         Duck, duck, goose.

Andrew:                 Yeah. Somebody will let you play. You just have to keep working on down there. Any other final thoughts here? We’re, what, a week and four days away from Orlando, and it was announced that College Game Day will be broadcasting live from Disneyworld. That wasn’t met by very many people very well. Then SEC Game Day will be there as well. That will be the second time in two years that that will happen. It happened last year in Jacksonville. The events, everything’s lining up to be a really fun time in Orlando.

Nick:                         What needs to be said is that Brenton Cox needs two waivers. I should have brought it up. He needs to get a waiver from the NCAA to be immediately eligible.

Andrew:                 Okay.

Nick:                         He also needs a waiver from the SEC, because the SEC, while they did change their rules, they changed their rules allowing graduate transfers, like Van Jefferson. Sorry, graduate transfers like the kid that left Alabama and went to Georgia, the defensive back. I forget his name right now. To transfer intraconference. Or a kid leaving a school that’s under NCAA sanctions, including a bowl ban. That will allow them to not have to file for a waiver to transfer from SEC to SEC. Neither of those criteria fit Brenton Cox’s situation, so you’re going to have to get two waivers. I don’t anticipate Kirby Smart, if Brenton Cox gets approved by the NCAA, I don’t anticipate Kirby Smart being like, “Sure. See you November 2nd.” You know what I mean? Something to keep track of, and we’ll be keeping track of it. On Gator Country, it’s in my story. You can go check it out. I lay it out there in more detail.

Andrew:                 Might be easier to get an NCAA waiver than it is SEC waiver.

Nick:                         Yeah. Especially, well, you know … I guess we’ll see. It could be something that works out. I’m interested to see him play, because he’s getting rave reviews from his teammates early on, so I’m interested.

Andrew:                 Yeah.

Nick:                         I would like to see him play.

Andrew:                 There you go. Nick, tell everybody where they can find us. We’ll get out of here. We’ll see everyone next week, as it will be game week, and we’ll be back on our normal routine schedule of Monday, Wednesday, Friday. I’ll get to starting on beating old Nicholas on our picks on Friday.

Nick:                         Negative. www.GatorCountry.com for all your Florida Gator news. The podcast is there in audio and transcript form. You can find the podcast wherever you listen to your podcasts. Just search Gator Country and hit subscribe. Never miss an episode. Do your social media thing. @GatorCountry on Facebook and Twitter. @TheGatorCountry on Instagram. I’m @NickdelaTorreGC. He’s @AndrewSpiveyGC.

Andrew:                 There you go. Guys, we’ll see you next week, as Miami hate week begins. As always, chomp, chomp and go Braves.

Nick:                         You stay classy, Gator Country.

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Andrew Spivey
Andrew always knew he wanted to be involved with sports in some capacity. He began by coaching high school football for six years before deciding to pursue a career in journalism. While coaching, he was a part of two state semifinal teams in the state of Alabama. Given his past coaching experience, he figured covering recruiting would be a perfect fit. He began his career as an intern for Rivals.com, covering University of Florida football recruiting. After interning with Rivals for six months, he joined the Gator Country family as a recruiting analyst. Andrew enjoys spending his free time on the golf course and watching his beloved Atlanta Braves. Follow him on Twitter at @AndrewSpiveyGC.