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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. mutz87

    mutz87 p=.06 VIP Member

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    Wishful thinking. You made your bad point for yourself. I looked at the maps. I also looked at the studies identified in the link I provided. I'll take experts who study this issue over your faulty inferences every time.
     
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  2. gator95

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    Is that your way of saying “my bad” lol? Lame attempt at an apology. Just say my bad and move on.
     
  3. mutz87

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    It's my way of saying your rhetorical gambits don't work.
     
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  4. gator95

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    Good one. Too bad anyone with a rational brain can read that map. Just lucky data on those dates a year apart LOL.
     
  5. surfn1080

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    Remember when Sweden was attacked by the media and "experts"...
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  6. g8trjax

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    Yep, that narrative quietly went to shit. :emoji_joy:
     
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  7. gator95

    gator95 GC Hall of Fame

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    Who didn't see this coming? More collateral damage from shutting down schools.


    https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w29497/w29497.pdf



    "We estimate the impact of district-level schooling mode (in-person versus hybrid or distance learning) on test scores. We combine Spring 2021 state standardized test score data with comprehensive data on schooling in the 2020-21 school year across 12 states. We find that pass rates declined compared to prior years and that these declines were larger in districts with less inperson instruction. Passing rates in math declined by 14.2 percentage points on average; we estimate this decline was 10.1 percentage points smaller for districts fully in-person. Changes in English language arts scores were smaller, but were significantly larger in districts with larger populations of students who are Black, Hispanic or eligible for free and reduced price lunch."
     
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  8. dangolegators

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    No, the narrative is still going strong.

    Sweden: 1480 covid deaths per million
    Finland: 227 covid deaths per million
    Norway: 183 covid deaths per million
     
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  9. Gatorrick22

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    More outrageous news about Covid-19 and how our allies are treating their citizenry becasue of it... Quarantine camps? Really? This world has lost it's mind over this... plandemic/flu!!!

     
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  11. mutz87

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    Takes more than a rational brain. You need to understand methodology and its fallacies.

    What you did was classic cherry picking. You looked at two points in time while ignoring trends that came before and/or between the two points. You could get away with it if you have many years of data that show stable trends. Not so with a new phenomenon.

    But this isn't your only problem. Determining whether a virus is seasonal actually takes measurement, controlling for weather and for behavioral patterns. Of course you didn't do this. You just posted two heat maps and called it a day.
     
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  12. Gatorrick22

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    This plandemic is easy to see and was in fact an international coordinated effort to subvert freedom and democracy. The deep state is not just about control it's about total control and it's all nicely packaged as a "cure" from the flu...

    Out founding fathers warned us about this from the past. Paraphrasing here: Those that will give up their freedom for security deserve neither freedom nor security.

    The NWO order has reared it's ugly head and it will NOT be part of the democratic process... We now know that total control over every aspect of our lives is the end goal of the NWO deep state commies. This means that they are at war. with freedom... Liberty.. and the Constitution of The United States of America... unfortunately.

    Here is what is happening around the world with respect to the PLANdemic.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political...s-erupt-across-europe-over-govt-covid-tyranny
     
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  13. gator95

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    Sure, go look at florida for the last 2 years and get back to me. Accepting the facts is tough for some I see.
     
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  14. g8trjax

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    Australia is already gone, I thought those guys had more backbone...they just rolled over.
     
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  15. mutz87

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    I posted about it in response to you already. But here's the graph that I used in writing my comment.

    FL Covid Cases.JPG


    I should also mention that you can't just look at FL or even only at the US to determine seasonality. And like I said, I'll let experts who understand scientific research methods much better than you seem to to make that determination.
     
  16. Gatorrick22

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    This is why the Second Amendment in the U.S.A. is so damned important to American freedom and Liberty.
     
  17. gator95

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    Guess it depends on which "experts" we want to listen to...

    https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/11/covid-seasonal-winter/620766/

    The role of seasonality in the spread of COVID-19 pandemic

    https://eos.org/research-spotlights/scientists-uncover-the-seasonality-of-covid-19

    Is coronavirus disease (COVID-19) seasonal? A critical analysis of empirical and epidemiological studies at global and local scales - ScienceDirect
     
  18. WESGATORS

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    Take those peaks and valleys overlay them by year, they don't line up.

    Go GATORS!
    ,WESGATORS
     
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  19. mutz87

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    Go back and read what I wrote. The Atlantic article supports my contention that it's not settled yet--indeed, I wrote that we might be heading that way but "we're not there yet." There are more than the studies you posted and together the evidence is mixed, as the link I provided that covered several other studies demonstrated.
     
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  20. mutz87

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    This would seem to me to be a reason why scientists are hesitant to declare covid as seasonal. To use the term from The Atlantic article, it's chaos. This science stuff isn't add water, instant hard conclusion so I think we need to wait some more as researchers work it out empirically.
     
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