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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. AzCatFan

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    There may be seasonality to COVID, but how do explain Arizona? Most people in the state live in Phoenix or Tucson, where summers are brutally hot, and winters are mild. Yet, the first peak in the state happened July, 2020. Hottest part of the year. The biggest peak by far, was Jan, 2021. Yet, there was yet another peak at the end of August/beginning of Sept, when temperatures were still very hot.

    If anyone can find a discernable pattern with Arizona and COVID being seasonal, I'd like to read the theory. Because I don't see it.
     
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  2. gator95

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    Yeah, the fool in the mirror is your reflection. It's ok to admit you were wrong on all those things. You guys won't give up in the face of all that data. Boggles the mind how some people are so ignorant. You are like a trumper.
     
  3. gators81

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    Is it “seasonal Covid” or tourism?
     
  4. l_boy

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    1 who disputed it?
    2. What accounts for the summer waves?
     
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  5. l_boy

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    You assert that lockdowns "don't work", which defies physics, biology and all kinds of other obvious science, that masks "don't work" which defies data and again defies simple laws of physics, and have a hard on for natural immunity, like it is somethjng novel, and is somethjng you get with every disease, and the only way you get is if you get the disease, which is what you are trying to avoid in the first place.

    Then you post this hundreds of time and pretty much nothing else.

    Good job. Keep it up.
     
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  6. gator95

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    Yeah tons of people come to Florida in July and august lol
     
  7. duchen

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    You probably missed that the publishers of the study that used the Beagles issues a correction; the NAiD did not fund any part of the Beagle study. I assume you did; otherwise you are just outright lying. Which you might be if you are making comparisons between Sr. Fauci and Mengele. To be clear: having know people whose entire families were killed by Mengele and knowing Mengele’s history, your continuing posts on this regard are offensive and despicable.
     
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  8. gator95

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    How many RCT’s showed masks worked before 2020? How many since? Masks don’t work. It’s quite comical. Simple physics lol. Putting out a hypothetical ‘study’ isn’t data lol. Sorry you don’t like the real world data I post. Tough luck.
     
  9. gator95

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    Our media when desantis said it. Some on here as well.
     
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  11. gators81

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    So no one travels to Florida’s beaches when their kids are out of school? Interesting, I guess my family was the only one.
     
  12. AzCatFan

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    RCT study, like this one from Bangladesh, with real world conditions, that showed wearing masks reduced COVID transmission?

    And by the way, July 4th is one of the busier times for Disneyworld. Kids are out of school, parents have a holiday, and you can usually get summer hotel rates in Florida.
     
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  13. mutz87

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    Florida has had three big waves and a smaller wave:

    Summer 2020
    Winter 2020-2021
    Spring 2020 (small peak March-April)
    Summer 2021

    You jump right to declaring as fact that Covid is seasonal while ignoring warm weather spikes. Waves in FL/US/World have occurred in both warm months and cold months. Covid may very well become seasonal because viruses tend that way but we're not there yet.
     
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  14. gator95

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    Yes you are not visiting in peak season. Not even close.
     
  15. gator95

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    What part of before 2020 did you miss? Plus normal cloth masks didn’t do anything and that’s what the vast majority of people wear. Yes, any holiday is busy in FL. Thanks captain obvious
     
  16. gator95

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    so FL has had similar results in the spring-summer-fall so far in the 2 years of covid. Shocking I tell you. Shocking
     
  17. mutz87

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    Stop deflecting. You made a boastful argument that isn't true. Must you always be so dishonest?
     
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  18. gator95

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    You made my point for me. I appreciate it. Don’t need to get snippy. Go look at the map and get back to me because obviously you didn’t look at it closely. It’s ok take your time
     
  19. l_boy

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    Seems like it has spread more in the southern states during the warmer seasons, perhaps due to their aggressive reopening. It has been more seasonal in colder and lock down/restricted states, as the disease eventually just seems to catch up to everyone.
     
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  20. mutz87

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    That's the thing, weather seems to play a role, as does human behavior. Early on in the outbreak, there was speculation that like the flu, Covid would recede during the warmer months. But this hasn't been true when we look not only in the US, but around the world.

    To your point about aggressive reopening, this among other human behavioral factors have and continue to be examined in models that also include weather factors such as temperature and humidity and while several studies have found significant associations, none seem to be ready yet to call Covid seasonal because the research is mixed and therefore unsettled.

    95 wants to pretend that he can just look at a map of two points in time from one geographic area and declare Covid seasonal, thus proving his imaginary foes wrong. There's a lot wrong with his argument, not least of which is that it's not based on any controlled measurement.
     
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