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Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by GatorInBham, Oct 5, 2025.

  1. GatorInBham

    GatorInBham Senior

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    ….the current talent on the team. He’s done an amazing job recruiting what appears to be a team that can compete with anyone skill-wise.

    The defense is top five, and the offense could potentially be much better with a healthy DJ Lagway. I’m just not fully sold on CBN Necessarily being the problem here.

    If we were to fire CBN, if history is any indication, we could end up with poor coaching AND recruiting.

    At least, now, we seem to have pretty good recruiting With some really exciting players that we haven’t really had in years.

    Can someone please tell me what the final take was on that last time out? I’m so confused reading through all the posts about whether that was actually a terrible decision or reasonable.
     
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  2. Wanne15

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    We are 2-3
     
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  3. GatorDad63

    GatorDad63 GC Legend

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    The product on the field is 100% his to own. Great recruiter, bad OC, and hardheaded to maintain his role as the OC, A great head coach hires people that he can hold responsible for the product they are putting on the field.
    He is not the guy.
     
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  4. bposs

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    And it took the first weekend of October to get that second win.
     
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  5. Gator40

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    I don't think many people have ever said he was an average or poor recruiter. That's a very rare take. It's always been about his poor game management, poor game and offseason preparation, and poor offensive design/feel for offensive flow through the game and within drives that the large majority of people have pointed out.

    He was fired by Dabo at Clemson as the OC because of their offense being so bad. His offense was described as predictable and conservative and lacking any identity. Exactly why he's been accused of here. Their offensive production fell off of a cliff when he was their OC.
     
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  6. EbSaxman

    EbSaxman GC Hall of Fame

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    Why torture yourself asking questions like this lol. Some of the posters calling for Napier’s head were calling from Meyers head after one bad season and they have been calling for every subsequent coaches head. Just enjoy it for what it is. Most of the criticisms of Napier are pretty valid, he’s not a good game day coach but he’s an awesome recruiter and he seems to be really good at putting together programs. Maybe he is getting closer to figuring out that he just has one thing to fix. Or, we should fire him, and start over again, and again, and again, and again, and again…
     
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  7. Wanne15

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    Same ol story. Hes gotta go. Hiring an oc at this point is crazy. This fool thinks the team finally caught up with his genius yesterday.
     
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  8. Gator40

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    And this is the problem. We could have 10 straight games where we were bad and then as soon as we have one good game, he thinks everything past is wiped and his ego tells him he's the answer. He's blatantly said as much in press conferences, that he's the only one who can run this offense to its utmost potential. Which is a very low bar.

    He's a great recruiter, or seller of program building to recruits, but his results are 21-22 so far.
     
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  9. GameTime1

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    Please do not ever compare Napier to Meyer. As for recruiting, I wonder about that importance with nil.

    I agree though, I would start over 100 times to get it right.
     
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  10. Brodeur

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    I like to think college head coaches these days have 3 lines of duties: 1) recruiting+portal management, 2) program management (i.e. the "CEO" stuff we thought Mullen failed at), and then 3) actual coaching of football.

    I think most fans who want Billy replaced would agree that he's grades well for 1), decent for 2), and woefully inadequate for 3). The catch is these days 1) is about the collective as much as the coaches. So the collective has held up their end of the bargain very well. If yesterday demonstrated anything, its that this team is on par with Texas talent-wise who invests heavily in their roster.

    Its time for the coaches to deliver wins commensurate with the collective's support.
     
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  11. antny1

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    Claiming the man has built a great roster and program, he just can't coach well isn't the flex you may think it is....
     
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  12. jmhawk88

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    Zook stacked the roster with talent but was a lousy game day coach. Should we have kept him?
     
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  13. fox

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    Opening statement : "we're in the talent acquisition business."

    "And.... "

    Oops he forget the "And" part. Or at least some of it. All of our hires since Meyer have had one or major holes. Is it so hard to evaluate a coach hire and find his holes? Almost anyone on the board coulddo a decent job if it.
     
  14. freedomgator

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    Timeout was fine. People here go overboard and blame Napier for all kinds of dumb stuff. That said, last season's start was unacceptable and this season's start was unacceptable. Yes, he's been unlucky with his QBs getting hurt. No, he's not the worst coach in the history of everything like some here pretend. But he has obvious deficiencies and has not delivered results. A change is needed.
     
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  15. freedomgator

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  16. ofmgator12

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    If Billy would give up play calling we'd be much better. He's trying to do too much. Get an OC Billy and we'd all be happier including you.BN almost gave the game away with the timeout fiasco giving Texas more time. The HBC at a major university is the CEO not the play caller.
     
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  17. GameTime1

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    He literally might be the worst coach in UF history.
     
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  18. LS1

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    ^ This.

    Zook, Muschamp, McElwain, and Mullen could all have a winning record right now with this roster. What does that tell you?
     
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  19. MarineG8R

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    lol where do these posters come from?


    ONE GAME DOES NOT DEFINE A COACH. HIS OVERALL BODY OF WORK DOES.

    Napier has been give more resources than any coach in UF history and he has an abysmal record to show for it.

    Dude is fine Sunday to Friday, he sucks when it counts.



    where’s it at @eightiesgator
     
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  20. SewaneeGator

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    Best and worst always have a qualitative component to them that generally comes down to differing opinions. But we ought to be able to say he is the least successful UF coach since the 1940s without argument.
     
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