Discussion in 'GatorNana's Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Trickster, Jul 6, 2020.
How many Hundreds of years have we been a country?
You showed him. Last I checked we were at two hundredS and 44 years.
No, that's like holding the drug addicts responsible for the illegal drug trade. If they did not create a demand for drugs, the drug trade would go away. The drug suppliers are not blameless either, especially for all of the unnecessary violence that goes with the drug trade.
U libs latch on to each other’s platform like parasites . You guys suck the lives out of hard working tax payers! It’s embarrassing to read your posts and to think that I have to cheer for the same team as u libs.
Would you like to explain why you quoted my post for a “you libs” rant? What specifically is at issue here? It’s hard to respond to nonsensical drivel.
Let's give Fee some credit. At least he is replying and not just throwing up a red X. That's a win in my book. It's interesting to watch the discussion here and who does not agree. The past is brutal when it comes to slavery. The now is disgusting when it comes to slavery around the world. Sex slavery is the worst crime today. Lot of white Americans came to black Americans defense to abolish slavery. The angry blacks seem to miss that point. BLM absolutely misses that. Many of the most accomplished people today are black Americans because they live in a free country. I didn't say fair country. You want a fair country move to North Korea, China or India. The accomplished woke blacks like LeBron point out the issues with no solutions. The billionaire has no solutions, but is great at stoking the fire. I got that from Harold Varner on the radio yesterday who is from Akron and a golfer working hard to make a living on the PGA. He is a stud who makes no excuses.
If Africa is irrelevant then tell me what slavery from 200 years ago has to do with racism in 2020. Racism existed long before George Washington’s great great granddaddy was born.
Why do you think that BLM and black people do not recognize that there were white people helping to abolish slavery in America? You do realize there are a lot of white people marching and protesting in the streets right along with black people and in a lot of the cases it is more whites than blacks that are in the streets. Also, do not get it misunderstood that it was largely economic reasons why white Americans that were not profiting off slavery that wanted it abolished. Lebron James has devoted a lot of his time and money back into the black community throughout his tenure as more than an athlete. In the very city that you mentioned Akron, he has open up a school for kids that if they graduate they get a full ride to college. Is that not possibly a solution and helping the issue?
Lol, UFlawyer, once the slaves were so called free you do realize that since they were working free labor they had no money, they had no education, many could not read or write, they had no land, and they still did not have civil rights. So, since they had nothing especially in the South who do you think they turned around and worked for? Thus, this began systemic racism that kept black Americans down. I cannot believe that in 2020 that there are still people who cannot see this.
I'm still amazed that in the year 2020 we still have to be having discussions like this, but unfortunately we do until we can somehow erase racism, assuming that is actually possible. We are all of one life, one breath. 46 chromosomes. 2 eyes, 2 ears, 2 feet, a brain and a heart. Skin color should mean nothing.
I think you miss the point of the post. The post asked a question, then made a factual assertion which is beyond the realm of debate. You have to be able to answer the question to understand the opposing point of view. You can’t argue slavery in Africa doesn’t matter, but slavery in the United States does. Either slavery matters or it doesn’t. If you are going argue that African slavery has nothing to do with U.S. slavery, then if you are a reasonable person you would have to concede that the Fact that white man Thomas Washington Owning a slave in 1750 in South Carolina has nothing to do with George Jefferson experiencing racism from Archie Bunker.
What I find amazing about these types of conversations is that they mirror most debates in Washington DC. Everyone on this page agrees on about 90% of the points, including slavery and racism are bad. But rather than try to make things better on what is agreed, we fight on the 10% of disagreement......AND NOTHING IS ACCOMPLISHED. The hatred here is strong. Pretty sad. As a society we have forgotten how to be civil, how to disagree and move towards a solution and how to agree and accomplish. No finger pointing, because I am guilty too.
This is not just about slavery from 1865 (check your math). It is about hundreds of years of slavery, share cropping (legalized slavery as instituted after the civil war), Jim Crow, institutional racism throughout society as well as pervasive social racism, "separate but equal" education, disproportionate use of black men to fight our wars, continuous use of racist tactics throughout the Criminal "Justice" system and much more... all of it stealing lives, property, opportunity, wealth and dignity from black Americans... for hundreds of years with a lot of egregious shit happening within the lifetimes of many/most posters on this forum and some of it continuing to this day.
You are right in theory, but you made a few mistakes. It is about 1000 years of human slavery, of all races and nationalities....perpetrated by all races and nationalities. You can’t just cherry pick a year, a decade or even a century. You can’t just cherry pick a race or a nation. That is just dishonest. The United States is not perfect, but there has never been a Nation at any time in the world that has done more and sacrificed more to free people and help the downtrodden than America.
Look man, we're taking about thousands of years of history here, you cant just cherry pick a nation to give the most credit to. That just dishonest. Every nation played a part in sacrificing for free people and to help the downtrodden. Lets not focus on one country or peoples to praise. Everyone gets a participation trophy.
This is not about what happened in other areas of the world.
It's about what we did here. Accountability for our actions.
Name another country that enshrined in its constitution that black people were less then human.
Every single European, North American, and Central American country abolished slavery before we did. Brazil was the only South American country to abolish slavery after us.
I don't know how many of those countries had the ongoing near equivalent of slavery in sharecropping or anything like Jim Crow, but we had that shit for another century.
It took at least a full generation after the Civil Rights Act was passed before there was any modicum of fairness in housing, employment, banking, etc - most areas of society.
And the protests we see now are a result of ongoing issues in policing, the Criminal Justice system, education, and general day to day racism in this country.
And that doesn't even get to the near genocide of Native Americans, breaking every treaty we ever had with them, constant armed robbery of their lands and resources, etc.
Your claim to some exceptionalism in how we treat people (minorities in particular) is a load of shit.
The actions and rhetoric of our President are a vivid example. Still supported by a frighteningly large number of Americans.
Africa is not promising everybody equal rights, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness like America is to the people born in America and who live there. So, your point does not really make sense.
any evidence that is close to being true?
What part do you not understand being true?