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Will FSU and Clemson join the SEC?

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by Tolbert1906, Jul 26, 2021.

  1. 62gator

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    If the Clemson brass were smart they would step up and beg to get into the SEC, right now. I’m not convinced their current setup as a clear top 3 program is sustainable in the mighty ACC. They would be a perfect fit in the SEC, what a slate of games that would make.

    Please, no clowns, please!
     
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  2. Claygator

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    Joining the SEC would save FSU financially. I don't want to save them.
     
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  3. Crusher

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    Check your history....UF actually sponsored FSU's request for admission to the SEC on multiple occasions. Each time they could not muster the 3/4 vote.

    Unfortunately for FSU, they had an egomaniac at the helm of the Football program that was also running the University that chose poorly (at least financially) when they actually had a real chance to join the SEC.
     
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  4. KronoGator

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    When Arkansas joined fsu was the next logical addition, they turned chicken, then Miami was asked but they were "above" the SEC, I think Texas was actually approached then but said no, South Carolina was like the 4th or 5th choice.
     
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  5. gatortenor37

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    Merging the ACC and SEC would be too big. Teams from both sides would choose other landing places. You can't have a 31 team conference. :rolleyes:
     
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  6. Crusher

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    Miami was never asked....they were quite butthurt about it. Even though they had a good Football program I don't think the SEC was interested in another private school with limited resources joining the league.
     
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  7. INGATORSWETRUST

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    Clemson likes their easy path to the playoffs. They don’t want to play a SEC schedule and get beat up each week.
     
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  8. Gatorhead

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    High Point?
     
  9. SewaneeGator

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    If we're back to reconsidering charter members,, Sewanee is probably available.
     
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  10. Gatorhead

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    I would not be surprised if the SEC and the ACC merge and the Big Ten and Pac 10 merge into 2 super conferences, with each conference picking up a bit of the residue from the Big 12 and "others". Possibly 20 - 24 teams in each.

    Again I just don't think 64 means anything now. Nor do I believe 64 of the current power 5 "survive" to make it into any of these supposed "Super" conference's.

    Just don't think the Big 10, ACC and Pac 10 sit idle while the SEC becomes a monster.

    Oh and an FYI - Big 10 schools make 54 Million each to SEC teams making 45 million each related to TV rights income distribution. That's TV rights, not everything.
     
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  11. thale410

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    The thing is that once you get past 20, things get really unwieldy from both a logistical perspective and diminishing returns financially. The 'merge' idea sounds simple, but I doubt any of these entities willingly give up a large part of their autonomy to another.

    It's either going to be that 2-4 leave the PAC or ACC and join another conference, thus destroying their old one, or things will revolve around 16-20 team versions of the P4 that exist today.

    Unless the SEC could pull in four of Clemson, FSU, UNC, Duke, or USC, UCLA, Oregon, Stanford (which is unlikely), I think they may be done for the conceivable future.
     
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  12. gatornharlem

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    Vanderbilt will never be voted out, and they will never volunteer to leave ($$). For 1, Nashville is a decent TV market. Secondly, Vanderbilt is a charter member of the SEC. And finally Vanderbilt's academic ranking as a top 5 university and tier 1 school (Stanford, Harvard, Princeton, Yale, MIT, UChicago, Caltech, Columbia, Brown, Northwestern, The University of Pennsylvania, Dartmouth, Duke, Cornell, Johns Hopkins, and Rice are the other tier 1 schools) gives the SEC serious clout and prestine reputation as the nation's top athletic conference with Ivy League-quality members.
     
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  13. garettk

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    You have to take Tech if for no other reason than to piss off uga.
     
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  14. Endless Excuses

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    FSU would love Clemson to leave so they can improve their odds which for years has consisted of a one game season in the ACC.
     
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  18. g8orbill

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    the North Carolina schools will all stick together and will not leave the almost competitive conference
    the SEC will not ask any school to leave-however, if one does you can bet the first call will be to klimpsin

    I do not see at anytime half assed or scUM being invited
     
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  19. Crusher

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    Its always been a complete mystery to me why academic ranking has one iota to do with athletic pursuits. Generally they are an anathema to each other.
     
  20. Crusher

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    I think the SEC probably privately touched-base with UT and Oklahoma in the last round of expansion when they accepted a desperate Mizzou team that never should have been invited into the SEC.
     
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