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Why do people blame gas prices on Presidents?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Diesel350z, Mar 9, 2022.

  1. OklahomaGator

    OklahomaGator Jedi Administrator Moderator VIP Member

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    In answer to the OP:

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  2. buckeyegator

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    it's a miracle,gas prices did not rise from yesterday, sleepy joe getting it done, insert sarcasm font here.
     
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  3. metalcoater

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    Do you know anyone that wants to spend billions of dollars to be a back up?
     
  4. dadx4

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    Because each president has their own energy policies.
     
  5. G8R92

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    Not limited to gas prices. I currently have an employee that was laid off in 2009. To this day, states that Obama laid him off. It was a publicly traded equipment rental company.
     
  6. demosthenes

    demosthenes Premium Member

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    I haven’t seen you correct this misleading post in response to Phil. Why is that?
     
  7. Diesel350z

    Diesel350z GC Legend

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    On the West Coast you wouldn’t have to spend billions on geothermal, on the east coast you can just have fossil fuels or other sources as back up.
     
  8. Diesel350z

    Diesel350z GC Legend

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    You didn’t even explain how Biden policies affected gas prices in the short term much less provide any sources. Please stay on topic and yes post 84 was a red herring.
     
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  9. metalcoater

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    Good luck with that.
     
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  12. tampagtr

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    And Noah Smith points out that Shenzhen lockdowns will also create inflationary pressure. But hey, it’s Biden’s responsibility. He was not into pain and too friendly with blacks and gays, making them feel they were equal. Or something, like that - it’s hard to follow Right Wing “reasoning”
    China, Russia, and the inflation situation
     
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  13. gatorpa

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  14. BLING

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    This is why using the strategic reserve to manipulate prices will never NOT be stupid for any President. Even in a “normal” market, it maybe knocks a few % points for a few weeks before the market just looks right past it. It’s a short term lever.

    Hardly relevant to the Russian invasion, other than pointing out using some of that strategic reserve now probably would have had more “bang for the buck” rather than using it a few months ago (although I believe that one was response to the colonial pipeline hack, which made it semi- legit).
     
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  15. VAg8r1

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    If one wants to blame a president this had much more of an impact on oil prices than anything that Biden has done although it's full impact didn't occur until well over a year later when the economy recovered and demand for petroleum rebounded.
    Oil Nations, Prodded by Trump, Reach Deal to Slash Production (Published 2020)
     
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  16. gatorpa

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    If I'm not mistaken that was when demand DIED due to covid and the per barrel price had dropped to about $18/ barrel. Our energy sector was getting killed and there was talk of defaults causing a huge issue coupled with the potential global recession induced by COIVD ( didn't happen so much because the world decided to print cash to avoid it) Which just fueled the inflation we see now.

    Frackers and shale producers weren't going to keep pumping at that price so an effort to keep the price up would have helped prevent a big decrease in production(which is where we are now and what you're talking about).
     
  17. jjgator55

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    The price of oil is now under $100 per barrel. If gas prices don’t start dropping within a few days then blame the oil companies for price gouging.
     
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  19. VAg8r1

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    The price of oil did drop as the result of Covid but production did not increase once the economy started to recover. Production is the US is now significantly higher and will continue to increase and even the oil exporting countries have started to ramp up production but that increased production did not start to occur until over year following the rebound in demand. In other words, the demand for crude as well as refined products like gasoline increased considerably in 2021. There was time gap of almost a year before production started increasing to reflect the economic recovery. When lower production is combined with increased demand the net result is higher prices. An MBA or PhD isn't required for that conclusion, it's a basic law that's taught in every entry level class in economics.
     
  20. tampagtr

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    Ouch. A lot of economists believe bad times ahead: