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Who will Harris pick as VP? It’s Walz!!

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by WarDamnGator, Jul 21, 2024.

  1. gatorchamps0607

    gatorchamps0607 Always Rasta VIP Member

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    This country loves the spectacle. Trump is good enough at being evasive. She needs to have more substance than "Trump lies". She won't get the chance when debates are about specific questions. She isn't very likeable and doesn't really do good at public speaking or being questioned. Just look at the border question that was posted in one of the threads. This is just the next delusion after the "Joe is sharp as a tack" delusion went bye bye.
     
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    gatorchamps0607 Always Rasta VIP Member

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    Likeability is overrated to those who already know which side they are voting for. Those who are in the middle just may not even show up. Kamala is going to need to inspire them to vote because again, "because Trump" isn't hitting that hard lately.
     
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  3. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    I mean most presidential nominees get there from winning a lot.
     
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  4. gatorpa

    gatorpa GC Hall of Fame

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    HRC didn’t do it…
     
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  5. gatorpa

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    He said dismantle not disrobe.
     
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  6. gatorjo

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    Yeah, well.....assuming she ends up the nominee.....

    We'll get to have an election. And many people may or may not like her and/or her policy ideas.

    But they'll then have the choice whether to vote for her or for the most reprehensible, probably most criminal, individual in the entire history of American presidential politics.

    It should be interesting, to say the least. It's a fascinating litmus test on the (apparently absolute and complete lack of) ethics and integrity as a value of the American voter.
     
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  7. cocodrilo

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    I remember nothing about it. But Trump is not the same man (I use that word loosely) that he was eight years ago.
     
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  8. mdgator05

    mdgator05 Premium Member

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    True. I was responding to this claim:

    She has won all but one campaign in her life. And they weren't all layups, especially her first runs for each office (her second runs were much easier, which is a good sign for her).
     
  9. mdgator05

    mdgator05 Premium Member

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    But she did. The issue is that it didn't matter because of her history and the opening of the investigation a week before the election (along with turnout issues on the left). But she won each debate, according to polls, by the following margins:

    1. 62%-27%

    https://www.cnn.com/2016/09/27/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-debate-poll/

    2. 57%-34%

    https://www.cnn.com/2016/10/09/politics/clinton-wins-debate-but-trump-exceeds-expectations/

    3. 43%-26%

    https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000157-e699-d25d-ab5f-fefd99660000

    None of those are even vaguely close.
     
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  10. gatorpa

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    Debate 1 the people polled mostly were supporters of HRC (didn’t see the %).
    Debate 2 58% of those polled said they supported HRC before the debate Did give % of Trump supports pre debate.

    Didn’t see a break down on the 3rd.
    Hardly a non partisan pool of people to ask.
     
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  11. mdgator05

    mdgator05 Premium Member

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    There isn't a "non-partisan pool of people to ask." They asked the people who watched the debates. The vast majority of those people are partisans. I strongly suspect that you didn't raise similar issues about polling the debate this year, despite it also not having a "non-partisan" sample. Am I right?
     
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  12. gatorpa

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    lol

    The left was freaking out after this year’s debate man. Even they couldn’t say Biden won that one. It’s apples and oranges.
     
  13. mdgator05

    mdgator05 Premium Member

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    Oh yes, because everybody on the right was sanguine about Trump's debate performances in 2016...said somebody with no memory of those days. You could literally hear his own staff groaning during the first debate with Clinton.
     
  14. cocodrilo

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    I'd like to see her pick Witmer. I think it would be cool to have two women on the ticket. (I think it would be cool to have two women anywhere.) Isn't Michigan one of those must-have states? If not, she should go with Shapiro from Pennsylvania.
     
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  15. Emmitto

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    Trump won’t debate her. She is a prosecutor. He is a criminal.

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  16. wingtee

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    Oh !
    My bad
     
  17. wingtee

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    Both they are both turds !
     
  18. tilly

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    Oh Gotcha.:emoji_punch:
     
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    Two convicted felons running against each other.
     
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  20. danmanne65

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    My problem with conservatives is that you think your beliefs trump facts. If you believe pie equals 3 when does that become true.
     
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