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What will it take for UF to land top 5 class

Discussion in 'Awesome Recruiting' started by Notoriousgator, May 17, 2018.

  1. Notoriousgator

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    Florida recruiting: Projecting how Gators will fill remaining spots in class

    RELATED: What it will take for Gators to land a top-5 class

    How will those remaining spots fill out?

    The Gators have pledges right now from one quarterback, two wide receivers, two offensive linemen, two linebackers and a safety. One of those receivers, 3-star athlete Ja’markis Weston, could be a candidate to leave the class. He has yet to visit Florida since the coaching change and officially visited Penn State on April 20.

    Based on depth chart needs and anticipated attrition, the Gators still have to get a running back, one more receiver —two if Weston flips — two tight ends, at least two more offensive linemen, four defensive linemen, three cornerbacks and one more safety.


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  2. theghost

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    Unfortunately, it ain't happening. We will likely finish inside the top 15. Unless we get 3 or 4 unexpected 5-stars (or a few high 4-stars ranked inside the top 150) our points won't add up to crack the top 5-10. I've posted this before, but look at the teams ahead of us and the recruits they already have committed (vs. the one's we have committed). I think getting a top 12 class will be a great accomplishment, at this point. We need Sanders, Elam, Hunter, Zipperer, and one of the other top DBs to commit to even get into the top 15 (which is moving ahead of several teams currently ranked ahead of us and possibly having a team or two fall out of the top 10).
     
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  3. gator7_5

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    I don't anticipate Mullen will have many classes at all inside the top 5. osu, bama, uga, and fsu alone will have better classes regularly. Not a knock on Mullen, but there's zero evidence he has the recruiting ability of those guys and a few others.
     
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  4. themistocles

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    For Florida to land a Top 5 class today, will likely require that the Gators start offering New Buicks or tons of Cash, as Bama, Georgia, Clemson, etc. do.

    Although it's true that Top rated kids usually help teams do well, in fact, the Gators highest ranked class in a while (24/7 #1 - 2010, 28 kids, 5 5*, 17 4* & 6 3* played on teams with the following records: 2010 - 8/5, 2011 - 7/6, 2012 - 11-2, 2013 - 4-8, 2014 7-5). So the 5 year record of those 5*/4* & 3* kids was 37-26. Even eliminating the last year (2014), it's 30-21.

    Quite clearly, it takes more than Highly rated players to be successful. They do help, but it's not so simple.
     
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  5. GameTime1

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    we might be better off just hiring one really good private eye and one really good writer/reporter.
     
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  6. Notoriousgator

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    A Buick? No thanks. I'll go to Bama to get a charger or camaro or SUV Justin Anderson received.
     
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  7. phideltdj

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    Lots and lots of money
     
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  8. Tito22

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    You need more than one class and coaching of course. The 2010 class was pretty good at the top (Powell, Elam, Floyd, Easley) but not much after that. Good class but probably not #1. The real problem was the 2011 class which was ranked #11 and a re-ranking would probably put it outside the top 30. That class was an absolute bust top to bottom.
     
  9. shane4three

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    Best assessment I've seen. Only chance at top 10 is a Sanders commit in next month, he gets the train rolling, and he starts recording for us.No way we make the top five this year we are way too far behind.
     
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  10. thale410

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    Top 10-15 consistently, with success bringing in top-tier spread QBs on a regular basis, will be more than adequate for the goals of the program.

    DM isn't going to load it up in recruiting like Urban did. Completely different landscape at this point.
     
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  11. eastowest

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    But yet Zook and Muschamp had top 5 classes.:emoji_confused:
     
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  12. G8tas

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    A hope and a prayer
     
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  13. GATOR_4Life

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    Sure, bringing in top qbs can cover up deficiencies elsewhere. But bringing in top qbs goes with bringing in top classes.

    We likely need to be in the top 5 at least every other year to be consistent national championship contenders into November and occasionally sneak in to the playoffs. To frequently get into the playoffs we need to recruit like urban and saban. Always top 5 and usually top 3.
     
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  14. tc7

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    Its going to take a miracle
     
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  15. Notoriousgator

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    You seem like a pleasant dude. You should post more. (No)
     
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  16. INGATORSWETRUST

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    Improve stipend differential paid to players each semester, so does not benefit FSU, UGA, TN, Clemson versus UF

    Improve player dorms so larger and of the same quality of other programs
     
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  17. thale410

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    This overall premise is somewhat comical. Using some mythological 'Top 5' benchmark as a legitimate metric for whether you can, or can't, make the playoff is highly suspect.

    The only two schools that could be labeled annual 'Top 5' in recruiting are Bammer and the Bucknuts. A once in 50 year anomaly of a program and a regional monopoly that didn't show up to play in one of their two appearances in the playoff. The other 7 programs cover a wide spectrum of recruiting results each year.

    If your expectation is for DM to recruit like Saban, UF Urban, or OSU Urban over the next 3-4 seasons, you are setting yourself up for a generous ration of anxiety/disappointment/angst.

    Conversely, if you don't think UF can move back into the CFB upper echelon without a "Top 5er" every year, you'll likely be in for a pleasant surprise.

    Relax and enjoy the ride, folks. We're heading down the right path for the first time in nearly a decade.
     
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  18. GATOR_4Life

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    I don't expect Mullen to recruit at that level, but I do think that's what is required to be a top echelon program (and its why I worry about the puppies). Consistent top 5 classes yield consistent top 5 finishes.

    What I actually expect is occasional playoff appearances (once every 3-5 years), and rough parity with our biggest rivals (uga and fsu). That's a huge improvement but not the dominance many want.
     
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  19. theghost

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    Agree. He needs to have top 10-15 classes w/ the occasional top 6-8. If he can do that it will mean we have a roster w/ more blue-chip players than 3-star players.....and if he does that, combined w/ a dynamic QB, we could get into the playoffs, win an SEC, and/or an NC. Hopefully.
     
  20. ncg8or

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    With the early signing period, gonna be tough for Mullen to land a top-5 class this year as it's moved up the whole schedule from a Fall/Winter timeframe to a Summer/Fall timeframe. Many of the top kids will decide this summer and Mullen will have only been on the job for like 7 - 8 months. We have given out a lot of 2020 offers though, so with a good show on the field those kids will have a couple seasons to see what Mullen brings to the table while deciding.

    We really need our offense to show up this year to put us in position to even land a top-10 class. Our defense should be good yet again, but lots of questions on offense - mostly QB of course, but will the SR-led OL finally put it together?