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War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. ursidman

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    I think this is probably an empty threat. Russia doesn't seem capable of fighting a war on such a broad front if Sweden and Finland are included. Plus the financial sanctions that are raining down on Russia's head. Apparently Putin may not be a genius.
     
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  2. g8rjd

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    Hope this guy doesn’t drink any tea from Vlad.
     
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  3. gogator7444

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    FIFA says no home games for Russians, neutral site with no fans, no flag, playing under some weird title a la the Olympics. Poland, England and others say not enough and are refusing to play any Russian team at any location.
     
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  4. exiledgator

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    Peace talks allegedly underway.

    "Give me everything, relinquish power, and we'll stop invading."

    "No."

    "We offered peace!!"
     
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  5. gogator7444

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    Talks near the Belarus border & now apparently they're going to join Russia and send air and ground troops. Something tells me they'll take the Ukranians hostage to male Ukraine surrender.

    So now it's 2 to 1 against Ukraine & NATO/etc won't get involved. Hoping those planes being sent get there fast.
     
  6. 96Gatorcise

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    Add Belarus to the swift ban and airspace ban
     
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  7. exiledgator

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    As I said upthread - don't send anyone critical to the war effort
     
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  8. duchen

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...9.fL38a9uHbF5lUHj9x13oOGA58P4b9raAg65Yue36AY0

    As the leaders of the European Union gathered for an emergency summit on Thursday night, momentum was already moving toward imposing tough new sanctions on Russia over its invasion of Ukraine.

    But a handful of key leaders — notably including German Chancellor Olaf Scholz — were reluctant to proceed with some of the harshest proposals. Scholz told reporters on the way into the leaders-only meeting that he wanted to focus on implementing sanctions that had already been approved before enacting new ones.


    After a perfunctory debate, the presidents and prime ministers quickly approved sanctions on Russian President Vladimir Putin, Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and some of Russia’s biggest banks. Talk of barring Russia from the global financial messaging system known as SWIFT, however, stalled amid skepticism on the part of Scholz and the leaders of Austria, Italy and Cyprus.



    Just that quickly, the Ukrainian president’s personal appeal overwhelmed European leaders’ resistance to imposing measures that could drive the Russian economy into a state of near collapse. The result has been a rapid-fire series of developments boosting Ukraine’s long shot fight to hold off the Russian military and shattering long standing limits on European assertiveness in national security affairs.
     
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  9. GatorBen

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    A big ass secondary explosion with a huge overpressure wave. Looks more consistent with something on the ground blowing up than it does the primary blast from a munition.

    That’s way bigger than the blast you’ll get from most thermobarics (and certainly the TOS-1), and I highly doubt Russia has actually used the FOAB (which is the only munition I can think of that possibly being).
     
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  10. exiledgator

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    Luka on thin ice before all this. Social contract on edge already.

    Let's get a BOGO for expelling delta bravo authoritarians!
     
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  11. chemgator

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    I'd rather see a Ukrainian take it for a joyride.
     
  12. gogator7444

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    From CNN live:

    UN Security Council votes to send Ukraine issue to General Assembly

    From CNN’s Senior UN Correspondent Richard Roth

    The UN Security Council just voted to send the Ukraine issue to the UN General Assembly for a Special Emergency Session due to a permanent member deadlock in the council."
     
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  13. uftaipan

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    Yep, stolen by the Russians as a (legitimate) prize of war in 1945. There is a price to starting wars and not winning them. Something the Germans had to learn, the Arabs refuse to learn, and the Russians are about to learn.
     
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  14. g8rjd

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    Another big win for Vlad on his efforts to break up European alliances. /s

     
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  16. uftaipan

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    I’ve given some more thought to this, and I now assess that those mobile crematoriums (assuming they really exist) are intended for dead Ukrainians, not dead Russians. Putin loves to play up the Russian Orthodox Church, so he wouldn’t want to cross them. Also, you just can’t hide dead friendly soldiers by burning them. As I suggested earlier, people who matter to Putin will notice they’re gone, especially after the pay stops coming. What you can do, though, is disappear enemy dead. People go “missing” in war. People “emigrate” and don’t necessarily report it to their families. There is a lot of room for deniability there. Of course, this only works if you win.
     
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  17. uftaipan

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    I’ve been clamoring for this. Great news.
     
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  18. chemgator

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    You don't remember the wedding scene in "Borat"? I think it was filmed there. This is how they mobilize. :)

     
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  19. CaptUSMCNole

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    Reminds me of the building that blew up in Beirut in '20.
     
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  20. channingcrowderhungry

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    Fist bump
     
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