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War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. duggers_dad

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    Russia is going to roll through Europe, if not stopped, is the new WMD in Iraq.

    Empire of Lies.
     
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  2. CaptUSMCNole

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    That is not the way this works. You are the one making the assertion so it is on you to back it up. Either name the countries or stop bringing it up. So once again, and this should be easy, what countries subscribe to his GIS service.

    You keep making assertions and then say if we want proof, go read the website of the guy I am asserting said that he did it. That dog doesn’t hunt. You provided independent verification of stated assertions or be expected to be called out on them.
     
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  3. slayerxing

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    Certainly earning that Nobel peace prize
     
  4. chemgator

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    Studies indicate that Russia has hit 950k casualties, and is on track to reach 1 million by mid-summer.

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/04/europe/russia-war-casualties-1-million-ukraine-intl

     
  5. pogba

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    Russia couldn't roll through an empty barn
     
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  6. vegasfox

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    Your request to name which countries receive Intel from Greg Copley's ISSA is bizarre and says a lot about you. A small except from Copley's bio on the Intel ISSA has provided for 52+ years:

    • Analysis in early 1973 as to how the demographic, economic and strategic trends would precipitate the break-up of the USSR by the early 1990s (with Stefan Possony).

    • Reporting, in advance of Western government sources, the penetration of the Peruvian Government of Soviet arms sales, and the Peruvian, Argentinean and Bolivian plans for attacks on the Pinochet Government in Chile (1973-74).

    • Analysis in 1973 on the prospect for a space-based, energy-derived weapons system to be used in an ABM (anti-ballistic missile) mode to suppress a Soviet first strike capability (by Dr Stefan Possony). Information noted by then ex-Governor of California Ronald Reagan who later developed it as the Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI).

    • Analysis during the mid-1970s to the effect that the USSR was devoting some 13 to 14 percent of GNP to defense. Official CIA view at the time was around four percent. Subsequent red team/blue team exercises confirmed our analysis.

    • Detailed analysis, supported by original intelligence, in 1974-75 to the effect that radical, revolutionary activity would lead to the destabilization of Iran and the overthrow of the Shah.

    • Detailed projections in the late 1980s as to the “end of the age of ideology” and the withdrawal — in the face of the collapse of ideological communism and the Soviet economy — of the USSR from Eastern Europe, preparatory to the transformation of the Soviet Union. At this stage, no-one else was making such projections.

    • Detailed analysis in early 1990 as to how and why Iraq would attempt to emerge as a major regional “great power” and would be forced to expand its access to the Persian Gulf in an attempt to outmaneuver. Subsequent analysis and reports in June-July 1990 specified and forecast accurately how Iraq would invade Kuwait (when, how and why). No other intelligence service matched the accuracy or timeliness of this prediction which, had it been acted on by the major powers, would have prevented the invasion of Kuwait and the subsequent Gulf War."


    Here's another excerpt:

    "He is the author of several thousand articles, open and classified papers, speeches and numerous books on strategic, defense, aviation, and other subjects, including two books of poetry. Mr Copley’s recent books include the annual 2,100-page Defense & Foreign Affairs Handbook, an encyclopedia with chapters on (in the current edition) 245 countries and territories worldwide. He has authored and edited 15 separate editions of this unique encyclopedia since 1976. The book has gone to senior government officials in more than 170 countries — including some 130 heads-of-state and heads-of-government — each year, and Judge Clark, when he was National Security Advisor to US President Ronald Reagan, said it was:

    “indispensable to the running of the National Security Council”.


    You seem to want to reject analysis by Copley because I can't give you the name of every country that has high level Gov't officials subscribing to info put out by Copley? That seems weird. As I've said you can call him or his wife and ask, their contact info is on the ISSA website.
     
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  7. JustaGator

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    Yes, because Russia military intelligence didn't light the fuse to World War 1 by supplying support to Serbian military intelligence who armed the Black Hand to assassinate Archduke Ferdinand and they never divided up Poland with the Nazis after the latter invaded, starting World War 2 in Europe.
     
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  8. vaxcardinal

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    Might as well save lots of money and get rid of the IC since it’s much cheaper to just subscribe to this service
     
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  9. vegasfox

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    The Intel community has gone rogue. John Kiriakou is a great guy. His CIA stories are excellent. The John Brennan/Eric Holder story at 33:19 is amazing
     
  10. 92gator

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    ...and yet we're 'posa be feared that they're gonna roll through Europe, soon as they finish with their cake walk through Ukraine...

    ...any day now...

    It's imminent!!!
     
  11. CaptUSMCNole

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    So if you cannot even name the 170+ countries which supposedly subscribe to his GIS service, why should we believe anything else you claim about him? That would seem to be the easiest one to prove but yet you cannot do it.
     
  12. vegasfox

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    Feel free to tell me how you would go sbout proving what countries subscribe to Copley's Global Information System and why it's important to you
     
  13. duggers_dad

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    Good, then we can quit wringing our hands over Russia.
     
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  15. CaptUSMCNole

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    Moving this over to the War in Ukraine thread where it is more appropriate.
     
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  16. CaptUSMCNole

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    Let's be clear about something, I’m not the one making the claim so it is not up to me to figure out how to prove it. It's your assertion, so you figure out how to prove it. My suggestion would be to ask him the next time you correspond with him.

    Do you subscribe to his GIS service?
     
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  17. vaxcardinal

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    My job would have been so much easier if I just subscribed to this. And adding in ChatGPT, can’t believe I got paid for the work i did :D
     
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  18. CaptUSMCNole

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    I love the phrase "at the highest levels of government." It reads like someone trying to market something to people that have never worked in government.
     
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  19. vegasfox

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    I don't correspond with Copley, I talk to him on the phone on a few occasions. (I used to correspond with Armaud de Borchgrave). Copley's time is very valuable to him and I know he has a volatile temper. Do you really think I'd waste his time by telling him I need to know the name of every country that subscribes to his Intel (GIS)?

    Given that so much of Copley's Intel, analysis and predictions have been made publicly for half a century, why do you need a list of countries that get his Intel? There are 195 countries, 170 get his Intel (per his website). That's over 87%. I guess a mod will have to step in and save you at this point. If not, the buzzards will eat well today

    Edit: You ask if I subscribe to GIS. Nope, that info only goes to governments. Similar info can be found in an ISSA publication called Strategic Policy
     
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  20. Gatorhead

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    Wait, I'm confused, the President told the American People NUMEROUS times, prior to the election, that the Russo/Ukrainian conflict would be over within 24 hours of his being elected. I don't understand where you folks are coming up with this 2 weeks stuff...............

    Geeze, I just checked my calendar, we are in June. Did Trump make a misleading statement to the American people? I'm in shock.........

    Now about those grocery and gas prices......................
     
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