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Viruses Don’t Exist: Change My Mind 2.0

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by duggers_dad, Jan 24, 2023.

  1. duggers_dad

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  2. wgbgator

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    Why is all the stuff you post from the same website? Any wild idea that has a one stop shop where you can get it for free is pretty sus IMO. But this illustrates one of the main problems when it comes to knowledge. You can go around spreading this crap for free, and to access any sort of scientific or academic content, you've got to basically have JSTOR access or something, not to mention be familiar with the field jargon to make any sense of it. Useful knowledge is usually valuable and therefor guarded, fake knowledge is free and easily accessed.
     
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  3. duggers_dad

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    I don’t think the language is that hard. I’m not a scientist, but I believe that the challenge could be summarized in this way ...

    Find discreet submicroscopic particles, in an ill person, and keeping them wholly separate from all else, show that they cause other people to be similarly ill.
     
  4. duggers_dad

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    Then watch my short Dr. Sam Bailey video. She’s easy on the eyes and you’ll love her Kiwi ‘ack-seent’
     
  5. duggers_dad

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    Whatever happened to “question everything” ? Isn’t that what science is supposed to do ?

    “I think it is absolutely essential that people should understand the methods by which the things they believe were discovered, because a lot of people seems somehow to think what they believe in, is independent on how it was found out… people actually don’t know, if you stop [i.e. ask] the average person, an average biologist, how do you know that the DNA is in nuclei, the majority of them would say, we know about, would say, by subcellular fractionation, and you say have you ever considered what happens in subcellular fractionation, they haven’t”. -- Harold Hillman

    DNA discovery, extraction and structure. A critical review

    There are insuperable problems for virologists.
     
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  6. mdgator05

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    It should be noted that you refuse to question your own beliefs and that your "insuperable problems" have largely been answered by the research, which you don't know because you don't want to read how it has happened.
     
  7. duggers_dad

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    And it should be painstakingly obvious that I can and do question my beliefs. How do you suppose I arrived at the conclusion that viruses don’t exist ?

    D’uh!

    Reminder: your signature study is a cartoon.
     
  8. mdgator05

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    So why the refusal to question that belief now? Is it because you think it makes you interesting, feel smart, or is otherwise useful to your psychological state? And is that the basis on which the initial claim was questioned rather than a thorough empirical investigation?

    And you are just making things up in terms of the studies. You figure if you insult it in a way that doesn't require you to address anything in particular, it is helpful to you.
     
  9. G8tas

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    This thread is 13 pages too long
     
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  10. duggers_dad

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    Scroll to the comments section in your link. Lots of head scratching. One says “I hope they don’t try to sell the video to Disney. What a letdown.

    Just the latest attempt to see a virus into existence through CGI.
     
  11. duggers_dad

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    Thanks for making it just a little bit longer!
     
  12. duggers_dad

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    There’s a gnat on my iPad screen.
     
  13. mdgator05

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    Lol, wow the internet comments section. Always known as a good source of information from a highly informed group.

    But I am glad for you that you found them to come up with defenses that you didn't come up with so that you can avoid questioning your beliefs.
     
  14. duggers_dad

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    Lab Coat Fallacy by design has a gaslighting effect. But it doesn’t work on everybody. I’m just pointing out that I am like some of the commenters who are asking “Where’s the beef ?”
     
  15. mdgator05

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    Nah, you aren't asking that. In fact, you aren't asking anything. You are protecting your own psyche from the notion that one of your own claims was false. Which is why you refused to get pinned down on any specifics as to how to prove your points wrong, as Lacuna stated.
     
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    You’re playing chess with a pigeon
     
  17. duggers_dad

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    Which claim was false ?
     
  18. mdgator05

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    That viruses have only been observed in still images.
     
  19. duggers_dad

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    Viruses have never been seen in still images, let alone flipbook. See: your breakthrough study.

    Pigeon says “check” ...
     
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  20. mdgator05

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    You are protecting your own psyche from the notion that one of your own claims was false. Which is why you refused to get pinned down on any specifics as to how to prove your points wrong, as Lacuna stated.

    Mate, even if you claim that your rook is actually the king.