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Video surfaces of Trump's traumatizing "forcible kiss" of staffer resulting in lawsuit

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by gator_fever, Jul 11, 2019.

  1. chemgator

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    Of course Trump has a bad character. I'm just saying that it is not as bad as Caligula Clinton. Trump generally pays for his sex, and then pays the women to keep quiet. Not exactly respectable, but not exactly going to the Caribbean to have sex with 14-year-olds heinous, or getting blow jobs from his barely-legal aged interns horrific.
     
  2. mdgator05

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    Hasn't he been accused of both having sex with underage girls and harassing employees, both underage and above the age of consent?
     
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  3. chemgator

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    Can you prove that Trump ever grabbed a woman by the pu...? No, you can't. In fact, the quote from Trump was that he was so popular, that, if he wanted to, he COULD grab them by the pu... That does not equal a confession.

    As far as crimes against women (pay attention here), forcible kissing = bad. Rape = really, really bad, like need to spend some time in prison bad. Hence, Joe Biden is creepy, whereas Bill Clinton is a criminal rapist, assuming the multitude of allegations have a basis. It's hard to tell if Trump was ever a rapist, or if women are either trying to cash in at his expense or venting their anger at his presidency and his politics.
     
  4. mdgator05

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    Multiple women have accused him of it. That seems to be the level of proof you needed. Or isn't it now?

    Hasn't he been accused of rape too?
     
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  5. HallGator

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    This reminds me of arguing over who has the ugliest dog. In the end, the winner still winds up ugly. There is no taking up for abhorrent behavior and none of us should make excuses for it. The really bad thing is I feel most of us hold ourselves to higher standards than we do those who we elect to govern us.
     
  6. nobbqsauce

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    So now Bill Cli ton is our standard....tribalism again.
    Well my guy isnt as bad as your guy was...

    Politicians are either stupid... we can all think of one in the news alot that falls in this category
    Corrupt....pretty much all of them. ALL of them.

    Or in most cases...bith. And why not. You dont have to be smart to be corrupt. And you dont have to be smart to run for office. In fact being dumb and corrupt probably helps. So why all the tribalism? Is your guy less corrupt? Less dumb? Is that really the argument we want to have....
     
  7. BigCypressGator1981

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    LOL at banging your intern being even in the same league of creepy & repugnant as hiring a PORNSTAR to screw you bareback and then paying her hush money.

    Now I’ve heard it all. Screwing the intern at work is a tale as old as time. Hiring stormy daniels - 33 years his junior- is spectacularly unique and horrific.
     
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  8. nobbqsauce

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    Ummmmm
    Isnt stormy in what is called the world's oldest profession?
    If you pay for sex...I'm assumingbthenone whonget paid understood and knew what was expected.
    If you are the intern and your BOSS, the person you answer to decides he wants more than your vote taking done in the office....

    Seems one is using...no abusingbtheir position of power over an underling and then other is being upfront with what is expected and offering monetary gain for it.

    I find both repulsive and showing of poor character but I dont agree with tour above assertion.
     
  9. chemgator

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    I have no love lost for Donald Trump. I didn't vote for him in 2016, and I won't vote for him in 2020. He is a disgusting human being, generally speaking. His biggest qualification for being president is that he is a world-class con-man. The only reason that he was elected was that the only alternative in the end was a criminal, Hillary Clinton. Ironically, Hillary selected Trump as her opponent because she thought he'd be, by far, the easiest to beat. So easy, in fact, that she took the last month of the campaign off and vacationed in California, to campaign in a state she had locked up two years before.

    All I'm saying is that democrats have no room to talk about Trump's womanizing after supporting Caligula Bill Clinton in the 1990's.
     
  10. chemgator

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    Screwing an intern a couple years out of high school is not as bad as a prostitute / pornstar? From a government ethics standpoint, having sex with people who report to you (or are within your chain of command) is generally not allowed, not that Clinton knew a lot about ethics. Seducing a nearly teen-age Lewinsky and ruining her life with the horrible publicity is disgraceful (maybe some day you'll have a daughter and understand what I'm talking about). Daniels was old enough to know what she was doing, and she had chosen her profession. I don't see anything spectacularly unique or horrific about it. Clinton was a lot closer to being a child molester than Trump was, at least in this case. And Clinton hammered that point home when he went to the Caribbean multiple times after his presidency to have sex with 14-year-old girls. In other words, the only reason that Clinton didn't have sex with any 14-year-old interns when he was president was the fact that there were no 14-year-old interns (fortunately).

    I don't know where you work, but I'm fairly certain that at most places of employment, interns are not hired to provide sex for the other employees. It is attitudes like yours that gives liberals a reputation as misogynistic women-haters.
     
  11. BigCypressGator1981

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    Dude, Lewinsky was a college graduate when she was screwing Clinton. Where are you getting nearly teenage? She was in her early 20s. From a stand point of what is relatively normal behavior for an adult American male, what happened between Lewinsky and Clinton was fairly normal. He succumbed to temptation in the work place and seduced a subordinate. I think we’ve all seen examples of behavior like this in our own lives.

    Now hiring a PORNSTAR to come bang you without a rubber while your wife is home raising your infant son and then paying said PORNSTAR hush money - now that’s extraordinary, egregiously disgusting behavior.
     
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    Lewinsky was a grown woman who was old enough to buy alcohol. She was damn sure old enough to decide who she wanted to blow.

    By the way, no women have come forth saying they had sex with Bill Clinton when they were underage...but a woman has come forth saying Trump raped her when she was 13.
     
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    Clinton is morally corrupt. Trump is so corrupt that there might not even be a defined term for his corruption. Clinton has not been accused by any women of having had sex with them while they were underage. Trump has been accused of raping a 13 year old girl on several occasions. He also bragged about seeing young girls naked in the Miss Teen USA pageant. He also arranged a party for 28 young women, Epstein and himself. He also has been accused by many women of raping or otherwise sexually assaulting them. Do you think that all of the sexual stuff about him are lies, including his own perverted statements?
     
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  14. 96Gatorcise

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    You can also add his documented fascination with his own daughter.
     
  15. MaceoP

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    Lewinsky was an intern who received preferential treatment from Clinton/Vernon Jordan because she gave the prez a blow job. I’m pretty sure the other interns who didn’t have sex with the prez weren’t taken care of like Lewinsky was
    This is the exact situation that we are trying to avoid in the workplace
     
  16. BigCypressGator1981

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    You’re pretty sure they weren’t or you know they weren’t? Proof of preferential treatment please.
     
  17. MaceoP

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    BS answer thank you
     
  18. BigCypressGator1981

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    You’re speculating that lewinsky got preferential treatment. Did she or not?
     
  19. nobbqsauce

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    Well...she got different treatment than the others...not sure it was preferential....unless of course you think ol bill was playing hide the cigar with the other young female interns.
     
  20. chemgator

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    She actually expected to be set up with a job in New York (in exchange for her silence) for $120,000 a year even though she had absolutely no qualifications.