Lundardi chimed in on it from a bracket perspective . . . Lunardi: How Saturday's top-10 chaos impacts the 2022 NCAA tournament bracket
Thanks @gatordavisl However (IMO), the bottom line: It makes no difference. They'll seed whichever teams however they want. Period. They hide behind a mysterious committee. I've always suspected CBS had a big leather seat at the head of the table. They'll use the same tired, worn-out nonsense arguments: #1 "Body of work" and #2 Specific games (especially last 10 games). When those don't work they turn to "tougher conference" games, or maybe something new that year. If someone (like Duke) needs a higher seed to fall so they magically ascend again and basically get home court games to the Final Four, a single "bad upset late" will do it. However if it's, say, Duke, with the "bad upset late" the professional talking heads will assure us there's nothing to see and we should be looking under a different shell . . . err, um, "body of work." I've watched their 3 Card Monty seeding since the 80s and used to shake my head until I figured out the real game was double-talk.
Agreed, and I made a similar point in another thread. People look at the numbers and formulas, but at the end of the day the selection committee uses that as a tool, not a hard rule. They will make subjective calls on what wins/losses mean, and what teams they want in the tournament at what seed for entertainment purposes. If two schools are close, the bigger name school will probably get the nod... or if there is a mid-major making a lot of buzz as a dark horse. Can't just look at KenPom or other statistical data to predict what will happen.
I watched the last few minutes of the Gonzaga loss to St Mary's. It was awesome! You could just feel those fans about to storm the court!
Basketball tournament seeding, at any & all levels seem to always have some sort of bias/ stink built into how it’s done. Blue-Bloods seem to always be placed in favorable seeding/ Regional locations, or both. When you add in the influence of “ Suits”, TV rating and TV money, it only makes it worse. Truly fair seeding leaves the room at that point. That’s a part of what make those first weekend upsets so dramatic & fun. Playing the game well and executing at the right time, has been, and I hope it continues to be, the great equalizer.
Tourney bids and seeding are fun points of discussion. With a 68-team event, there will always be some apparent snubs. We should revisit this discussion on selection Sunday. I will be interested to hear your suggestions about how it played out. I can think of some times when the Gators were over-seeded (ok, maybe only one time really, which was the 2seed in Tampa, when we got crushed by Mich St) and some times when the Gators were under-seeded. I can't really think of any times the Gators were snubbed. Maybe once during the BillyD years?
besides the national seeding there is also conference slotting that doesn't allow (in most cases) teams in the same league to meet until the elite 8. In particular, the SEC and Big 12 could have half of the National seeds, but the order matters.
The Big Ten and the ACC will get more teams in and better seedings than either conference deserves. The SEC is WAY better than either conference this year. It is all about TV revenue. It is as bad as the NBA and I no longer consider it as sport. It is all about the dollars. Just a shade over pro wrestling.
