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UF presidential search is getting underway (U Michigan prez is the sole candidate) update- merged

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by oragator1, Oct 29, 2024.

  1. Orange_and_Bluke

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    I’m going to regret this…
    How so?
     
  2. 92gator

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    The "new age of MacCarthyism" was the aggressively progressive woke ass cancel cult, to which the current movement represents a necessary correction.

    Y'all sowed this shit.

    Reap.
     
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  3. G8tas

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    One of his initiative's plans was to ensure diversity and make sure that everyone has equal opportunity. I remember it lead to an increase in contracts with minority businesses
     
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  4. bigDgator

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    That's not my logic at all. Santa has a history of supporting DEI, and now he says he doesn't support it. I don't believe him and it is obvious the liberals on this board agree that he is lying or you would be happy that he was blocked. You all seem to be unhappy about it.
     
  5. Orange_and_Bluke

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    So you’re saying Jeb was all about DEI?
     
  6. mdgator05

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    Here was my initial reaction. I specifically mention that he is hardly a profile in courage (which was my admission that he wasn't going to do much from a policy standpoint that I liked), but that he is an experienced administrator and an academic, which UF, a university that I have loved and supported, needs to hire the many, many academic deans that it is missing right now. Now, we will spend a year trying to find out what political mediocrity can get the position, rip off the university, and run with a bunch of money like the last political mediocrity that they hired. All while we likely continue to have no academic deans and, frankly, since this is a board dedicated to supporting the athletics program, a sclerotic and ineffective UAA.

     
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  7. Tjgators

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    Case in point.
     
  8. mdgator05

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    Not reading the rest of that is a good example of common sense. The rest didn't really add much, since it is mainly about substituting "common sense" for your political beliefs, which are neither particularly common nor make particular sense.
     
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  9. wgbgator

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    All the corporate types were, it basically exists as a form of keeping the government from meddling in your business or institution. Its saying "see ... we are complying with civil rights laws, leave us alone." Whether they believe in it or not, I don't know. But now that there is basically no fear of court or government action, they are letting their freak flags fly again. With today's supreme court ruling there is a high chance they have 'DEI but for whites and straights' offices now.
     
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  10. staticgator

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    When does Matt Gaetz get the job now?
     
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  11. wgbgator

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    'Competent administrator' is liberal-coded now
     
  12. SotaGator

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    When it suits corporate and government interests, they are for:
    Diversity meaning hiring a workforce that is representative of societal demographics,
    Equity meaning that applicants and employees get a fair shot, and
    Inclusion meaning that everyone is treated with dignity and respect.

    Some posters here act like there was NEVER any discrimination, bias, insensitivity or retaliation towards ethnic or religious minorities, women, LGBTQ, or others in workplaces, government or academia. (No, not in 'Murica, no!)
    If so-called merit-based hiring really exists, then your workplaces would look most like the general population because (drumroll) smart, talented, competent, hard-working, capable people come in all types.
    If blaming initiatives like DEI for attempting to correct our society's ingrained and perpetual biases gets you so riled, what does that say about you? Throwing out DEI initiatives, instead of refining or improving them, is throwing out the baby with the bathwater.
     
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  13. bigDgator

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    I understand and if I was left of center I would say hell yes let's take this guy over anyone else we might get that is worse, like Ben Sasse. Completely understandable. I don't know that this guy would have been bad anyway, just a gut feeling, but I don't know.

    You want more academic, I want more managerial and business savvy. I don't fault you for it. There is no guy they can hire that would ever please either of us 100%.
     
  14. dave_the_thinker

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    Really unfortunate. It's obvious to everyone Ono wasn't a DEI champion. So what if they found video of him reading Michigan's policy.

    He'd be a great president who can bring in re$earch projects and suck up to all sides as needed. Because that is what a university president does.

    I'm still holding out hope for him here.
     
  15. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Old school thinking from you for sure…you’re dating yourself.
    I can’t recall where white town is anymore. Can you show me?
    The country is now and has been multi culturally represented all over the country for some time.
    You Dems need to feel good about yourselves by backing weird initiatives that are out dated.
    You ought to get out more and you’ll see it for yourself.
     
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  16. ajoseph

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    I don’t think many people knew who DeSantis was, much less what he stood for, when he ran the first time. He barely won that election. Heck,I don’t think DeSantis knew who he’d become; he completely changed once Covid hit stride.
     
  17. ajoseph

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    I appreciate your side’s view of a correction. But just as McCarthy started his reign of terror on a mission to expose enemies of our Country in the midst of a Cold War, he was swept into his own uncontrollable power and weaponized labeling. That same weaponization is proliferating each day by people such as Rufo and his ilk. My guess is that they will be exposed and records in history just as McCarthy.
     
  18. gator_lawyer

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    My reaction was similar:
    The "libs" aren't pissed because this guy is a progressive. We're pissed because he's qualified for the job and competent, despite our disagreements with him. Because we care about the university succeeding more than we care about the ideology of the person they hire, unlike the culture warriors who shot him down. I know UF isn't hiring a progressive in this political environment. I was relieved they were hiring somebody who knew how to run a major university.

    But he failed the ideological purity test because the culture war crazies don't want UF to succeed. It's a "liberal indoctrination" factory that they must destroy. They hate American exceptionalism.
     
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  19. SotaGator

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    You do understand that the DEI movement evolved over decades but really took hold in most major corporations and institutions by 2005, right? Primarily through Human Resources and Risk Management units, the early focus was on sexual harassment and unconscious bias training to evolve to later more comprehensive forms.

    The training has been instrumental in fostering a greater sense of collaboration and belonging in America's working world. It has also helped to identify "bad actors" in the workplace; those persons whose behaviors are considered H.R. nightmares or legal risks.

    The concepts are not weird and outdated. They will continue, in a repackaged / renamed form at all major companies whether you agree or not.

    I'd imagine many posters here have had this training. And oh, by the way, one core principle of DEI is to not label people based on assumptions.

    I RESPECT your right to voice your opinion; I REJECT your labelling of me (or others) when you don't know me.
     
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  20. vaxcardinal

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    I got my DEI training by watching episodes of The Office
     
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