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Tucker Gleason, QB, Tampa Plant

Discussion in 'Awesome Recruiting' started by StrangeGator, Mar 7, 2019.

  1. Matherly87

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    Well my goodness, I went back since 2000 and found out you must be right and that Plant High must really have been a bad school since all these up and coming schools were signing there players. Schools were like LSU, Alabama, FSU, Clemson, Georgia, Miami, Texas, USC, and Penn State. These small schools probably had no chance of winning any championships anyway so they took a chance on signing these players from Plant. Especially since most of the Plant players were overrated and couldn't get any interest from Florida, nah never happen. Why some posters on here probably agree with you that we don't need many 4 or 5 star players to be competitive in the SEC and 2 star QBs, WRs and DBs are our future. Of course you could say Indiana University practically has a pipeline to Plant High with their 1 signee since 2000 to the Gators ZERO. You're right, we must not be interested since there's no evidence.
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  2. 1975Gator

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    Oops. That's what I get for letting my fingers get ahead of the facts.
     
  3. rpmGator

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    So plant players would rather play for Indiana than the Gators

    It would seem somebody would have chosen the home team
     
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  4. Wanne15

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    J Jones eligibility goes through 24 if he wins the job after takeing a shirt this year. It could be as much as five years until we see a qb on the field that isn’t on the roster. Someone may transfer after next year and make our depth chart more inviting but at the moment there’s a log jam that could last a while.
     
  5. apkgator

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    Let's play devils advocate a little....
    -Reports are Franks was thinking about turning pro after this past season, and many feel that is a certainty if he has a decent 2019 season, so let's acknowledge a good chance to count him gone. If he has a poor season and loses the job he would almost certainly transfer as well.
    -Trask would seem to be a natural transfer candidate, in fact there is a sense we need him to transfer to free up roster space. If he comes out of spring as #4 how does he stay? Would consider him most likely gone before 2019 season unless he really excels in spring.
    -Jones and Jones are both likely to battle for the backup job. Let's say Jalon edges ahead of Emory for that #2 job....something that isn't a huge stretch. Does Emory stay if he is behind a younger player? One only has to look at the transfer portal to see that guys don't stay if they ain't playing.

    Is the above scenario extreme? Somewhat. But I would argue the believing we have "3 at least, maybe 4 for 2020" is also extreme. My guess would be that UF has 2 of the 4 current QB's on the 2020 roster, so adding a guy will likely be necessary. Of course the transfer market works both ways, UF could add a guy from the portal if that becomes necessary.
     
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  6. defensewinschampionships

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    I for one would be ok with taking a Trask-like project this year because of Mullen’s developmental abilities. 3star sits for three years then maybe plays his 5th year. Definitely go after a highly rated next year
     
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  7. G8RLegist

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    Of those players, only Orson Charles was highly recruited by UF. He followed Murray to UGA because they out recruited us (even after he broke our trophy). Aaron Murray wasn't highly recruited by us because Meyer didn't run a pro style offense. Marve saw the QB's we had ahead of him (Tebow, Cam Newton, Brantley, etc) and went to Miami. Juwann Burgess didn't have the grades for UF which is why he didn't end up at USC as originally committed. Whop Philyor, Micah McFadden, and other Plant playmakers are also at Indiana right now. We had zero interest in Judge Culpepper. Wilder wouldn't come to UF because we would not sign him as a running back (he was a much better linebacker or small DE). I've already explained Putnam.

    So again, Orson Charles is the only player that I am aware of that we really went after and lost.

    But, that is excellent research, Matherly. It is hard to track players from a certain school. Well done.
     
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  8. SavageGator

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    It's been rumored Plant's coach doesn't like the Gators.
     
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  9. coach

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    I really thought I remember him making some negative comments publicly some years back about the Gator program. Maybe it was second-hand, but thought it was right from the horse's ... mouth.
     
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  10. Wanne15

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    That could be how it shakes out. May not look too enticing to highly rated qbs atm.
     
  11. nobbqsauce

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    Couple of things.
    1. Mullins dumbed down the play book ALOT for Frank's this year. The expectation is that he steps up and is ready to open the playbook up. EJ started to click at the end of the year. Coaches feel his ceiling is much much higher than Frank's. If Frank's does not come into Sprung training prepared and in shape he wont be the starter.

    2. I also have said some derogatory things about the Gator program especially at the end of the muschamp years and most of McElwains tenure. Most of us have. And high school coaches can see the garbage from a much closer view than most of us get.
     
  12. gatorfanbill

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    Yep, seems to me if we talk trash about our team... then nobody is going to want to come here.

    Plus it’s not fair to our Gator team. Demoralizing really.
     
  13. coach

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    You don't dumb down a playbook.
    You use portions of it that players execute well. Those vary depending on the opponent. Teams never use the whole playbook no matter who the QB is.
    Did the coaches tell you they feel EJ has a higher ceiling?
     
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  14. MadduxFanII

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    I would guess that 2019 is Franks' last season with the Gators. If he improves this year, I think he goes pro - he's got all the size NFL teams want, he's got a big arm, he's mobile, he's durable and he'll have a ton of experience by the end of the year. I don't see him as an early round prospect unless he takes a huge leap forward, but the physical skills should get him drafted in the fourth or fifth round.

    If he takes a step back, he'll probably get passed and lose the starting job, in which case I can't imagine he'll stick around for a fifth year as a dethroned back-up (the Driskel path, basically).

    Basically, the only scenario where he stays for 2020 is one where he maintains his current level of play - an acceptable SEC starter who generally avoids big mistakes but leaves plays on the field and can't really carry an offense with his arm. And even in that scenario, he might still leave - he could declare for the draft anyway, he could get passed by one of the Jones boys and transfer in the spring, etc. Guys like Franks generally don't hang around campus for five full years.
     
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  15. G8RLegist

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    The home team has to offer them first. And some do play for the Gators, but they walk on. May, Few, etc.
     
  16. G8RLegist

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    Not a chance.
     
  17. G8RLegist

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    I think you are saying the same thing, just in different ways.
     
  18. coach

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    I kind of sensing a negative Franks , pro EJ spin to his post.
    Otherwise he would have said the offense was really dumbed down for EJ.
     
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  19. G8RLegist

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    I think it goes without saying that the offense was “dumbed down” for EJ. His plays were very situational.
     
  20. coach

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    But he chose to say it was really starting to click for him. Whole lot of spin going on.