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Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by gatorraider, Oct 1, 2025.

  1. Wanne15

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    He tried that already but it didn't work. We fell for it though.
     
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  2. dabigunit

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    Billy is the reason we are 1-3 instead of 4-0. He sucks. Fire him . We will finish with our worst season in decades.
     
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  3. eightiesgator

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    I gather the opponents had SOMETHING to do with those losses as well. You make it sound so easy.

    But Billy DOES need to go...
     
  4. jeffphillips21

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    The big question is who the hell negotiates these enormous, ridiculously high buyout clauses and why are they any type of norm? Why should we owe any coach anything if he isn’t doing his job to the highest standard. It boggles the mind
     
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  5. Matthanuf06

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    The issue isn’t the buyout, it’s who we are giving them to.

    Napier and Mac had minimal leverage and certainly didn’t need to be paid what they did.
     
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  6. jeffphillips21

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    It’s both. Agreed they were the wrong hires, but no one should be paid that kind of money to be fired for incompetence.
     
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  7. Zepgator

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    I’m always amazed at comments like these “We could be 4-0 without a handful of mistakes and inconsistent QB play.” So if you erase our mistakes and inconsistencies, the opponent should also be able to do the same. Regardless, this argument is baseless because once you change one thing that happened in the past, everything after that would be different. It’s ridiculous. The only time it could be used is if it was the last play of the game “if he would have made the field goal as time expired, we would have won”. Another way to expose it is if someone says “if we would have made more mistakes and had awful QB play, we would have been destroyed “. Well, that didn’t happen either, so we weren’t destroyed. We did make those mistakes and did have inconsistent QB play and no logic can minimize where we are.
     
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  8. EbSaxman

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    I don’t think this is a question of time paradox theory - it’s simply observing reality. The team that played last night - with a QB that has had more time uninjured to practice and that didn’t extend a drive by spitting on an opponent - may well have won the games it lost. All three losses were close. Miami looks worse because the team gave up scores at the very end. LSU and USF were both nail biters. I think ALL of it has been down to Lagway not having time to get ready. From here on out teams not only have to contend with a quarterback who looks prepared but now what appears to be a superstar receiver in the making.

    I’ve been as down on Napier as anyone but frankly last night he coached a great game and his offense was able to put more points on the board than the clear #1 team did against Texas.
     
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  9. Zepgator

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    Agree with a lot of that - but that wasn’t his point. You can’t go back and only change one teams mistakes to support a different outcome. Much better play last night all the way around and play calling was better for a good part of the game.
     
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  10. Wanne15

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    Coaching may couldve made a difference?
     
  11. EbSaxman

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    I’d like to see how the team plays going forward with DJ more intact. I still don’t think he is close to 100% but he is well enough now to be dangerous. Napier seems to lose more often than not when all his pieces aren’t in place - and I think a lot of that has to do with his feel for the game on game day. Ergo, I think he is actually a pretty good program coach and recruiter, who would really be wise to recruit a game day play caller (or use his current one if he is good). He could focus more on details and not have those bonehead mistakes that have plagued the team. He’s imho very close to being very good but he has one fatal flaw that is easy to fix.
     
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  12. MarineG8R

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    But in 3.5 seasons he hasn’t recognized the fatal flaw.
     
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  13. Wanne15

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    He ruined yet another season. It would be ok to lose if they played their best and it wasnt good enough.
     
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  14. eightiesgator

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    On BOTH sides. That's Zep's point. Fans generally look inward for their successes and failures. If we win, we're obviously better. If we lose, it's someone's fault on OUR team.

    What team EVER admits that? Even back in the late 1990s/2000s, a loss was always saddled on one coach or player. During the SOS Era, it was usually Hoke or Dougie. In the early 2000s, it was Zook and Zaun, of course (Chris also got some barbs). Back then, I think the last team we all acknowledged was better than us were the 1995 Huskers. Gator fans would rather die than admit FSU or Miami beat us because they were the better team.
     
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  15. Wanne15

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    Bama beat Trask but we played our asses off. Bamas d was just lightyears better than ours.
     
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    I saw DJ hobbling pretty bad yesterday. He’s not healthy.
     
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  17. eightiesgator

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    It's rare, though.
     
  18. g8wayg8r

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    It sure looks like this team would benefit from a good, proven OC. There are more than a couple of head scratching moments. But, I'm also sure there's a reason the vast majority of fans that carp and whine are sitting in the stands rather than standing on the field teaching and managing young men. Calling for scorched earth with nothing than a nebulus, one-dimensional plan doesn't seem prudent today.
     
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    They are the norm here because they are the norm everywhere at this level. We are in an arms race. I hate that it happened in college football, but, it has. We won't ever get a shot at a top tier coach if we don't do the same. Even then, we have to be right about who that is.
     
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  20. eightiesgator

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    Two responses.

    1) Unless you KNOW they are intentionally not doing their job to the highest standard, you can't just revoke a buyout. It has to be For Cause, and ineptitude doesn't meet the criteria.

    2) We live in a different world, the world of Jimmy Sexton and the other bigtime agents. "Why should I pay $200,000 for a top of the line Range Rover when it stays in the shop half the time?" If you want top tier, you have to pay for it, and like the Range Rover, a top tier reputation doesn't automatically produce top tier results. Of course, we paid Range Rover money for a Chevy Equinox four years ago. Sexton is one helluva salesman...
     
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