Discussion in 'GatorNana's Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Gator515151, Feb 26, 2020.
Well the markets clearly loved Trump’s speech.
Doesn’t help that he lies all the time.
But here’s the difference: On one side, we have the leader of our country (it used to be the free world but no longer). On the other side, an entire profession.
Someone has to take the lead. It seems to me that the President, our leader, needs to rise above the noise and lead, not constantly attack and defend. Being President requires a thick skin, with an understanding that he has chosen to be in the spotlight 24/7, and that at all times about half the people will disapprove of what he does. If that is something that Trump doesn't have the stomach for, step down.
The freedom of the press, and its ability to report to the public, is the touchstone of a free democracy. The result of the “war of the press” is a complete distrust of the press. Unless this is remedied, we are looking at the crumbling of one of our main foundations.
Someone needs to be above the noise and ensure our democractic infrastructure is safe and secure.
No I don't but Trump did say last night that we don't need thousands of people on the payroll sitting around right now. We can hire the people when we need them......Obviously that is not a quote and I'm not going to listen to the entire speech again just to find it but it was mentioned.
I didn't watch the speech but from what I've read, much of what he'd said about the virus before his speech was wrong. Unfortunately that's expected. Probably more from ignorance than lying.
But in the speech he apparently tended to actually read the facts he'd been handed.
Great research and you are correct.
I was working in the ER at the time and like 30% of the people with respiratory illness had it. Lasted like 3 months (peak was like 3-4 weeks).
It was very bad for pregnant women.
It was very similar to a pandemic flu for the 1970's that one I also recall because my entire house got it and we were down for a solid week. Probably why despite treating 100's of people I didn't get it, had some left over immunity (Don't get the flu shot either).
And the same thing in August of this year and Dec of 2018, a few weeks later I crushed it.
H1N1 was different than Corona, because it was a strain of an already known virus. By the time H1N1 hit stateside, there already was a vaccine. As someone with asthma with a child who was turning 4 the summer of 2009, my entire family got inoculated. With that said, H1N1 did have an effect on the economy, both local and global, but it was mild. Probably because again, we knew the virus and how to inoculate against it. And the older population, which is often the hardest hit, didn't necessarily have to worry because at the time, anyone over 60 had likely been exposed already years ago and were safe.
Corona is different. It's a strain we haven't seen before. It's unlikely there will be any vaccine in time, and pretty much anyone who comes in contact with the virus will have a good chance of getting sick. Even if the virus isn't deadly, the ramifications of a significant portion of a population being sick at the same time are huge. Imagine if 50% of everyone who works at a manufacturing plant all get the virus around the same time. It would mean a shut down of production for days.
An airborne virus is extremely difficult to contain, and if a school-age student or teacher gets infected, the virus will spread very quickly. It would mean closure of the school for a few days, and exposure for all the children and school workers, which means exposure for all the parents and families.
I'm not saying we should panic, but we shouldn't underestimate what could be a worst case scenario, which are entire cities shutting down for a few days because nobody has immunity to this strain. May not happen, but it's a possibility that I think we need to be prepared for.
Here is a graphic comparing the progress of COVID19, SARS, and the H1N1 swine flu. As of about two days ago.
Except in 2009 the vaccine missed the mark which is why so many people got it.
You are correct in the fact that this appears to be a novel strain and there is less chance of old immunity.
Show me that video. Also, I judge the POTUS on his ACTIONS not his words... because psychology works.
No, it's not just a proposal it's the Leftist's ideal start to the destruction of our free market economy and the start of this socialist utopia. Even these socialists know that you cannot create a socialists nation with a healthy middle class. Everything they propose will destroy the middle class, regardless of what you think.
Andy, you have your view and I have mine... Stop responding to my posts. I know I cannot change your mind and you will never change mine, so.... bye.
Make them qualify "statements" from Trump when they accuse Trump of saying or doing something. They exaggerate and invent things.
soberest? That would be me. No alcohol. No drugs. I am hooked on Ibuprofen because of the headaches I get from not drinking or doing drugs though.
Personal experience dealing with the Trump org in 2004, Trump organization is a bull in a china shop backed up by a large group of lawyers sending threatening letters to anybody that disagrees with them or refuses to pay whatever invoice they issue. In 30 + years in development business, they were the worst organization I ever dealt with. They requested a meeting, we gave them a date and time, they showed up (Jr was in the group) and subsequently told us how stupid we would be to not hire them. For that privilege, they sent us an invoice for private jet travel NY to Naples, 3 nights at the Ritz Carlton Naples for 4, food, and limo. Remember that they were the ones that asked to meet with us. We received threatening letters for 12 - 15 months when we refused to pay. Everything from badmouthing us to other hotel operators to threats of lawsuits with damages for loss of business because they met with us and not their other many possible partners. Bury your head as deep as you want to but they are not good people or good businessmen.
I don’t know what you mean. There’s no video of the Presidential budget; they’re published in written form and archived for anyone to review. If you think I’m wrong you can easily look it up and disprove my statement. I look forward to your response after doing so.
Did you even watch the briefing last night? Trump did exactly what you asked, rose above the noise and tried to lead....Then came the presses turn, they turned it into a sideshow by asking questions about Pelosi, Schumer, the stock market and the election. Maybe Trump should have told the reporters that this briefing isn't about those things.....but then this discussion would be about why Trump ignored the (important questions) asked by the press.
As a Reminder.
Someone said on another thread that it was fake.