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Trump tells lawmakers he won’t sign deal to avert shutdown, demands funds for border security

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  1. flgator2

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    Trump tells lawmakers he won’t sign deal to avert shutdown, demands funds for border security
    Large parts of the federal government lurched toward a shutdown Thursday after President Trump told GOP leaders he would reject a short-term deal to keep the government open unless it contained money for border security.
    In an emergency meeting with House Republican leaders, Trump said he would reject a measure passed in the Senate that would fund government operations through February 8 but deny Trump any new funding for a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border.

    “The president informed us that he will not sign the bill that came over from the Senate last evening because of his legitimate concerns for border security,” House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) said at a news conference after the meeting.
    House Republicans now will attempt to add an amendment to the Senate measure that adds $5 billion — the amount Trump has demanded — for the construction of a border wall and other security measures, as well as additional funding to deal with recent natural disasters.
    I hope he doesn't cave.
     
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  2. channingcrowderhungry

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    He promised us Mexico was going to pay for the wall. They chanted it at rallies. Its like I cant even trust stuff that comes out of his or his followers mouths or something.
     
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  3. wgbgator

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    LOL of course Trump would be the first guy to have a government shutdown when his party controls every branch of government.
     
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  4. BLING

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    Democrats probably secretly hoping the self-inflicted "Trump shutdown" lasts months and months.

    This is nothing but irrational desperation. A temper tantrum in a lame duck session right before Christmas, when even most Republicans (esp those that lost their elections) just want to get out of town. What a master negotiator, LMAO.
     
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  5. NavyGator93

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    He is a trailblazer.
     
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  6. GatorNorth

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    Rick Wilson was right-everything he touches dies.
     
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    thats ok, he made dec 24th a federal holiday so I get another paid day off
     
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  8. citygator

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    I’m at a loss. I am positive he rarely has an endgame in mind. Shutting down the government because he can’t lead his own party? Who does that show? I swear Pelosi has naked pee pics of him. He is awesome for Dems. The only result is some Pubs pissed at how their leaders voted... either way. No upside.
     
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  9. grumpygator77

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    "stable genius" :rolleyes:
     
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  10. GatorNorth

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    Maybe he can get Mexico to pay for the shutdown also?

    Freaking idiot.
     
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  11. mutz87

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    Why do you hope he doesn't cave?
     
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  12. flgator2

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    Our country needs border protection, the wall is just the start of it. This is the best opportunity for him to get something out of this. I'm sure you and others here don't agree. A lot rides on this.
     
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  13. GatorNorth

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    More riding on this for him than the country. We'll be just fine without the wall. If we can survive Hitler, Mussolini and Stalin, we can survive securing the Mexican border without a wall.I wish he'd be as concerned about protecting us from Putin as from the next generation of day laborers

    Border protection/security is essential. I completely agree with that. Knowing who is coming in and out of your country is paramount to sovereignty.

    But a 2,000 mile wall is quite simply, stupid. There are other ways to do it. And the wall won't keep out one person who overstays a visa, which is a big part of the issue. But Drumpf built a campaign around the wall, so he's going down swinging on it.

    We have 12,000 unprotected miles of coastline. What's next, a 12,000 mile moat?
     
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  14. duchen

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    Manufactured crises. Border security is a lie. He wants his wall. That is what he said in his meeting with Pelosi and Schumer. More from the Russian playbook.
     
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  15. duchen

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    This is the way he does business. This is the way he makes deals. This is the way he performs contracts. Do you know anyone who has done business with him? They will tell you how stupid he is. The only people who wanted anything to do with him are the Russians he fronted. Why wouldn’t the country be any different. Btw: does this shut down the special counsel and the courts? Hmm
     
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    A fence combined with senors and drones would be more effective than a wall a fraction of the cost. Trump just wants to build another monument to himself and his low information supporters think that would be great. It's also somewhat ironic that among the federal employees who would be hit hardest by the shutdown are Border Patrol and ICE agents, the very folks directly responsible for border security. They will be working without pay for several weeks and although they will be paid in the end, losing paychecks at Christmas time would normally not be considered a way to boost morale. In Trump's mind, if you could call that, what really rides on this, is continued support from Laura Ingraham, Rush Limbaugh and the Fox talking heads.
    [​IMG]
     
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  17. duchen

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    Fake crises.
     
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    It does not shut down the special counsel.

    The Government Shutdown Won’t Stop the Mueller Investigation

    Mueller’s team, however, does not need to claim this exception. The Mueller team is not affected by the shutdown for a different reason: Special counsel investigations are not funded by the regular appropriations bills. Instead, they are funded by a separate “permanent indefinite appropriation” established by the Department of Justice Appropriation Act of 1988 to pay for “investigations and prosecutions by independent counsels,” and are therefore exempt (rather than excepted) from mandatory furlough. In other words, Congress has already passed the appropriations bill that funds this investigation, so no one’s salary is stuck in the Treasury—there is nothing preventing the Mueller team from going to work and getting paid.
     
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    Yes, that is so true, but he's not alone... "If you want to keep your healthcare insurance, you can keep your healthcare insurance...period!"
     
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  20. GatorNorth

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    It’s like having ACA tourrete’s:

    Whatever happens under the Trump administration involving untruths (and there are literally thousands of things)-break out some version of “if you like your doctor you can keep Year doctor”

    The republican penance for all lies.
     
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