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Trump - Putin meeting in Alaska

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by OklahomaGator, Aug 15, 2025 at 2:37 PM.

  1. G8tas

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    I hope tthat Bibi hears this as well
     
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  3. PITBOSS

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    Trump has a lot of admiration for Putin.
     
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  5. VAg8r1

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    It was obviously a slip although if Biden made a similar slip he would have been incessantly ridiculed with MAGA and the right-wing media citing the slip as an example of Biden's cognitive decline. On the other hand Putin probably approved since both Ukraine and Alaska were part of the Czarist Russian Empire and Vlad has indicated on more than one occasion his goal is to restore the Russian Empire.
     
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    You catch more flies with honey?
     
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    Can we caption that pic? Lol...
     
  10. oragator1

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    Long term, history has proven time and again that caving to people like Putin only means more killing later. It’s unfathomable to me that people can’t grasp that, he will see this as capitulation, and in three years when his army is reconstituted and his finances back in order it will be another attack because he will assume he will get another “negotiated agreement”. He has done it his entire time in power, he has attacked, brokered deals and then broken over a dozen agreements only to attack somewhere again. You are basically giving up parts of Ukraine now to give up more later, and it moves him closer to Europe’s doorstep and emboldens him. Unless the goal is to continue to capitulate small pieces until he finally dies, this doesn’t help.
    And again, Trump has zero authority to negotiate on behalf of Ukraine, so what are we even doing?
     
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  11. Gatorrick22

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    And what did Obama do when Putin took Crimea right in front of his face? I'll bet he drew a red line...

    But if you want to compare presidents then answer this: What: did Biden do to the Taliban Terrorists in Afghanistan? He let them KILL 13 AMERICANS and left them with billions of brand new military equipment....

    BEYOND EMBARRASSING, DISGUSTING, PATHETIC… SO SIT DOWN with your feigned indignation about Trump making a deal with the devil. You and the Dems have ZERO CREDIBILITY TO CRITIQUE WHAT OUR POTUS IS DOING.
     
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  13. gaterzfan

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    “Caved to Putin”? Where has that happened? Is that like Obama doing nothing when Russia to Crimea?


     
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    How many people (including Americans) did Hamas recently murder in Israel? Over 1200... Yeah, sit down and let the adults in the room talk.

    Only a communist, nihilist would negative rep this post.
     
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  15. VAg8r1

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    Absolutely and I would add that Putin has made no secret of his ultimate goal of restoring the Soviet Union/Russian Empire.
     
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    over 60000 dead now and 150000 wounded. Someone should explain the concept of proportional response
     
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    We would like to avoid that again yes. It’s one of the reasons we are here today for sure.
     
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    Zelensky prolly one of history’s all time badasses.

    Actor turned PREZ (cray cray, amiright?) fighting to to the death to not be simply annexed by world powers.

    Putin gets people to say “Oh stop the killing”, which is Putin bombing kids and old people in their homes. How to stop it? Ukraine giving up their country. Ha, hard to see how today’s R’s self-lathered to get to that calculus.

    Even when they (not Ukraine) meet to plunder and call it “peace” he’s still not giving an inch.

    That dude is about 160 and apparently most of it is sack.
     
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    If you want a thread on Obama, start one. But for today, I’m talking about what Trump was reportedly going to “offer”. I put it in quotes because he has zero authority to do anything today.
    Giving him even an acre of land he didn’t have before gives him something he didn’t have before. That’s all he cares about and all he will see.
    We could bleed him dry and run him into the ground without a single US life lost. Ukrainians are happy to fight for their land, and to date it’s cost us 3 or 4 percent of last years budget to potentially take down a geopolitical foe, blow up the Brics axis, help protect Europe, and send a message to every wannabe dictator around the world. And yeah, it sends a message to China on Taiwan that the west will stand with democracies, which could save us trillions in trade and weaponry long term.
    It’s one of the best deals we will ever have, we should be throwing weapons at Ukraine until they say they can’t take anymore and telling Putin to go to hell. Instead he’s getting a red carpet today.

    if Trump stands up to him today I will be the first one to breathe a sigh of relief. But then this whole exercise was just dumb.
     
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  20. Gatorrick22

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    Lol...

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