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Trump pushes for more federal law enforcement in DC

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by rivergator, Aug 10, 2025 at 12:48 PM.

  1. ufhomerj31

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    Big Gov Don at it again.
     
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  2. wgbgator

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    Its not unlike homelessness. Being homeless isn't really a crime (as much as they try to make it one), but if people see a homeless person in the area they conflate it with high crime.
     
  3. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Would you prefer living near homelessness?
     
  4. wgbgator

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    I cant remember not living near visible homelessness. Gainesville, midtown Memphis, even where I live now, there are homeless people within an easy walk. They seem to mind their own business for the most part, don't wander around the residential areas and there is virtually no serious crime around here. Ultimately my preference would be that no one be unsheltered. The only time I've been slightly disturbed was when some guy aggressively knocked on our door in my Gainesville apartment asking for money or meds, that kinda crossed a line for me.
     
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  5. PITBOSS

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    good post.

    Assuming crime is truly that bad — what’s the plan? The National Guard isn’t a long-term solution. We understand their role in sudden city calamities — LA riots, Katrina in Nola — but in this case, will they actually engage in day-to-day law enforcement? Chase down porch pirates? This is long term problem. There’s been mention of bringing in FBI agents.

    Or will Trump, after a few months and $10s of millions spent, simply wave around some Sharpie charts and declare victory.

    With almost unlimited resources for crime prevention, this will be a real test case. I hope it succeeds — and, to your point, addresses the actual problem areas rather than just producing Trump photo ops in front of Humvees near the White House.
     
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    Photo ops and video clips the gop can use in the mid terms " see how our hero brought law and order to LA and DC, blah blah blah".
     
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  10. dynogator

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    Of course not. There's no golf course there.

    My 75-year-old friend comes through Union Station twice a year to visit. Somehow, so far, she's successfully navigated the hellscape that is Union Station.
     
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  11. mdgator05

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    I go to Union Station regularly (about once a week) and walk to work from there. I'd hate to see somebody that was truly frightened of that place. They must be terrified all of the time. Or they are trying to convince people who have never been there how terrible it is for some reason.
     
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  12. Tjgators

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    Not a quote from Trump, but there are a good dozen quotes with negative stories.
     
  13. mdgator05

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    You have to look out for the Shake Shack and designer clothing stores and expensive European chocolate shops. It is truly a minefield of danger.
     
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  14. CaptUSMCNole

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    Just spoke to a friend that is an FBI agent that is part of all of this. I asked if the DC Metro Police were happy to see them and he said that they actually are. They are happy that the FBI and Park Police are going to be able to make arrests on federal charges and actually be able to get around the no cash bail system DC has in place.
     
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  15. dynogator

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    Is "no cash bail," what it sounds like? You can't pay your bail in cash? Why is that good or bad?
     
  16. mrhansduck

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    I have not been to DC in years, so I cannot speak of any recent personal experience there. But we've talked about these sorts of issues nationally and with respect to other places as well.

    Living in Florida, I sense that the alarm and fear I hear about violent crime these days are not commensurate with the data. When many of us were kids, people were getting gunned down in the streets of Miami, but I don't remember people in the panhandle talking about it. Today, my local tv station covers murders and the worst violent crimes across the country, and I have to read the article to realize the story is out of an entirely different state. They may even throw in an international incident if it's crazy or scary enough.

    Ezra Klein did a podcast about these issues last year, and I think he was onto something. His basic premise was that the anxiety/frustration/fear about crime today might not be so much about murders and serious violent attacks per se but rather, social disorder generally - open drug use, public intoxication, aggressive panhandling, shoplifting, etc. That made sense to me. Of course, we should not accept people being victimized regardless of whether it was worse in the past or not; nobody should be afraid to walk in their neighborhood at night, and not all of us get to choose a safe part of town to reside.
     
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    My understanding is that the phrase describes a system where courts do not require criminal defendants to pay money to be released from jail before trial but rather focus on factors such as flight risk and safety to the community only. I have always found it odd to tell someone they are presumed innocent but have to sit in jail awaiting if they don't have the financial ability to pay for their pre-trial freedom. I am not sure how it plays out practically if someone has a long rap sheet or is on probation, though.
     
  18. G8tas

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    Hopefully DC can get the $1 billion for their city budget that's been held up in Congress for a half a year. This is money that the city has already raised and has nothing to do with federal money.
     
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  19. g8orbill

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    "No cash bail" refers to a policy where defendants are not required to pay money to be released from jail before their trial, especially for less serious charges. Instead, other methods like risk assessment tools, supervised release, or personal recognizance (a promise to appear) are used to ensure they return to court.
     
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    Looks like now they are stopping people on their front porch. If a cop asks for my ID while I'm sitting on my porch we're going to have a problem