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Trask, Pitts and Toney

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by ofmgator, May 1, 2021.

  1. orangeblue_coop

    orangeblue_coop GC Hall of Fame

    Nov 19, 2016
    The NCAA is a business first and these players treat it as such by making business decisions that are advantageous to them. Nothing more nothing less. You’re not going to shame them into believing it’s anything more than that.
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  2. metalcoater

    metalcoater GC Hall of Fame

    May 30, 2007
    It might be the best thing for Kyle. He never started in high school. It took a while here. Maybe a few years learning from the one of the best ever, will work out. Trask has the ability to work hard and learn.
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  3. BJ1888

    BJ1888 GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 14, 2007
    His $7.35 million signing bonus is guaranteed, so a bit more than half.

    2016: Christian McCaffrey (picked 8th; 2x All-Pro) and Leonard Fournette (picked 4th; 3rd player ever to have 4 playoff games scoring a TD in one season; won SB this year)
    2017: DeShon Elliot (picked 190th; injured in 2018 and most of 2019; started 16 games this season), Derwin James (picked 17th; All-Pro as a rookie; injured most of 2019 and all of 2020), Connor Williams (picked 50th; 1x All-Pro), Royce Freeman (injured before bowl game; picked 71st; hasn't started a game since rookie season)
    2018: Nick Bosa (withdrew from Ohio State after injury in 3rd game; picked 2nd; Defensive ROY; blew his ACL in 2020), N'Keal Harry (picked 32nd; injured most of rookie season), Ed Oliver (picked 9th; All-Rookie Team), Will Grier (picked 100th; 2 career starts), Devin Bush (picked 10th; All-Rookie Team; tore ACL last season), Bryce Love (tore ACL and declared for Draft before bowl game; picked 112th; spent 2 years on IR and was waived a few weeks ago), Karan Higdon (UDFA; practice squad), Germaine Pratt (picked 72nd; became starter in middle of rookie season and started 15 games last year), Deebo Samuel (picked 36th; made Super Bowl as a rookie), Noah Fant (picked 20th; All-Rookie Team), Rashan Gary (picked 12th; started 31 games in 2 seasons), Greedy Williams (picked 46th; started 12 games as a rookie, IR last season for nerve in shoulder), Isaiah Johnson (UDFA; practice squad), Kelvin Harmon (picked 206th; started 8 games as a rookie, IR for ACL last year), Donnell Greene (UDFA), Justice Hill (picked 113th; 0 starts in 2 years), Yodny Cajuste (picked 101st; IR for different injuries last two seasons)
    2019: Eno Benjamin (picked 222nd; "healthy scratch" in 2020), Nick Coe (UDFA; practice squad), Trevon Diggs (picked 51st; 11 starts as a rookie), Terrell Lewis (picked 84th; COVID reserve, only played 8 games), Andrew Thomas (picked 4th; 15 starts), Isaiah Wilson (picked 29th; COVID reserve and suspensions, only played 1 game), Kamal Martin (picked 175th; tore meniscus and came back to play 10 games), Brandon Aiyuk (picked 25th; 7 TDs in 11 games), Cam Akers (picked 52nd; 3 TDs in 11 games plus 2 in playoffs), Justin Madubuike (picked 71st; 3 starts), Brandon Wimbush (undrafted; opted out because he wasn't getting snaps, not to protect draft status), AJ Dillon (picked 62nd; 2 TDs in 11 games), Hunter Bryant (UDFA; waived after injury), Trey Adams (UDFA; practice squad; retired), Trevon Hill (undrafted), Cam Dantzler (picked 89th; 10 starts), CJ Henderson (picked 9th; 8 starts before injuring groin), Jonathan Garvin (picked 242nd; played in 8 games)

    That's a lot of missed games, so (at least for the guys who were drafted), the injury risk is real. McCaffrey and Fournette were likely influenced by Jaylon Smith, a projected top-5 pick who blew out his knee in the 2015 Fiesta Bowl (non-playoff) and dropped into the 2nd round of the 2016 NFL Draft. This meant the difference between a 4-year $23.5 million fully guaranteed contract and a 4-year $6.5 million ($4.5 million guaranteed), so the injury cost him around $20 million.
  4. justinwitt07

    justinwitt07 GC Hall of Fame

    Dec 7, 2018
    Atlanta , GA
    Looked it up one day. Millennials are defined as post 1984 dob. Cliff Claven out
  5. KSAGator

    KSAGator Senior

    Jan 26, 2014
    “Yeah, they certainly know how to keep order. Let's face it. They're the only ones who could in a place like this...”
  6. Skink

    Skink GC Hall of Fame

    Thanks Cliffy
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  7. ajjaxgator

    ajjaxgator GC Hall of Fame

    Aug 3, 2007
    Human beings evaluating and ranking other human beings. What could go wrong?:)
    Just saw a piece on Mel Kiper, JUNIOR. What a fraud. Anyone else who was half as wrong as he's been over the years would have been fired tout suite OR resigned out of abject embarrassment (which he vowed to do if Jimmy freakin Clausen wasn't going to be a high level NFL QB). On the other hand, to have the money and esteem he's achieved while being such an incandescent failure at his job speaks to some 4-D Vulcan Chess level of cunning.
  8. ajjaxgator

    ajjaxgator GC Hall of Fame

    Aug 3, 2007
    OK....aside from the alphabet, the roads, sanitation, the aqueduct, medicine, irrigation and wine....
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  9. danmann65

    danmann65 GC Hall of Fame

    May 22, 2015
    Here is an idea. Maybe the bowl games should be required to get serious insurance on all of the players who play in the game?
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  10. AgingGator

    AgingGator GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 24, 2007
    Agree completely and would add that probably 1/3 of the scouting teams and GMs suck at rating football players completely, and suck even more at building a strong roster. The NFL Draft is designed for parity yet there are teams like the Jets, the Lions, the Bengals, the Texans, the Redskins(or whatever the hell they decide to call themselves) that have sucked for decades. There’s a second tier that has been mediocre for decades.

    These teams, like the Magic, Knicks and others in the NBA and MLB are poorly managed.
  11. tigator2019

    tigator2019 GC Legend

    Dec 25, 2018
    In my head--- UF
    I asked earlier in this thread. Did any NFL exec, admin or scout say this?
  12. 183gator

    183gator Junior

    Nov 17, 2010
    I never said it hurt Trask, just commented on what someone else wrote.
  13. TrueGator

    TrueGator GC Hall of Fame

    Nov 11, 2014
    I actually did think that the bowl game might have hurt Trask's draft stock, although I'm proud of him for being loyal enough to play the game in advance of the draft. But, the lack of available targets would certainly have been a big factor in that. However, in the end, I don't think Kyle could have landed in a better place for his long term future. He's in a system that fits him, and, he can develop under the best. I'm not a fan of the NFL, but, I will follow Kyle's career and really hope he does well.
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  14. ThomasD89

    ThomasD89 All American

    Oct 9, 2011
    Maybe. Maybe not. It is also possible that the team sees Trask as a financial asset - bring him in, give him 2-3 years of development, and if he pans out then trade him.

    He could end up starting somewhere sooner rather than later.
  15. Gatorrick22

    Gatorrick22 GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 3, 2007
    I like where Trask landed, I do NOT like that his teammates didn't play one final game with Trask... he deserved at least that from them. Trask's accuracy made Toney and Pitts big(er) signing bonuses. And who knows what Grimes was thinking. Did he think he was first or second round film as a Gator already... before the Bowel game?
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  16. Skink

    Skink GC Hall of Fame

    Bowel game is about right
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