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Tracking Trump's Lies/False Claims - 1, 929 so far

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by ballastpointgator, Jul 9, 2018.

  1. ballastpointgator

    ballastpointgator Senior

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    Every false claim Donald Trump has made as president

    Donald Trump has said 1929 false things as U.S. president

    The Toronto Star is keeping track of every false claim U.S. President Donald Trump has made since his inauguration on Jan. 20, 2017. Why? Historians say there has never been such a constant liar in the Oval Office. We think dishonesty should be challenged. We think inaccurate information should be corrected. And we think the sheer frequency of Trump’s inaccuracy is a central story of his presidency.

    If Trump is a serial liar, why call this a list of “false claims,” not lies? You can read our detailed explanation here. The short answer is that we can’t be sure that each and every one was intentional. In some cases, he may have been confused or ignorant. What we know, objectively, is that he was not telling the truth.
     
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  2. orangeblue_coop

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    I'm honestly shocked the number is that low.
     
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  3. ballastpointgator

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    I love that they say he may have been confused or ignorant. I'm still waiting for some Trumpsters to explain how they dig through his piles of BS and decide which ones they believe and which ones they don't. Do they have a special Trump decoder ring?
     
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  4. ballastpointgator

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    This is great stuff...

    There are 40 claims related to North Korea

    JUN 23, 2018
    "If you remember, before I got elected, it sounded like we were going to war with North Korea."

    Source: Roundtable on tax reform in Las Vegas, Nevada

    in fact: There was no indication that the U.S. was going to war with North Korea in the Obama era prior to Trump's election.

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    North Korea

    Trump has repeated this claim 2 times

    "They've gotten rid of, in the process of getting rid of, their engine site for ballistic missiles."

    Source: Speech to Nevada Republican Party

    in fact: There was no evidence North Korea had destroyed its rocket engine site or was in the process of doing so, according to an analysis on the website 38 North,
     
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  5. GatorNorth

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    The use of alternative facts is an absolute defense.
     
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  6. gatorknights

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    I don't care about the lies, misogyny, misrepresentation, hyperbole, disrespecting non-whites, stereotyping, xenophobia, selective hearing and all.

    I just like what he is doing. It's all about the results, baby! o_O
     
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  7. ursidman

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    Only roughly 3.6 lies/misstatements/statements of ignorance per day? Seems low. They must have a generous benefit of the doubt filter.
     
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  8. secgator

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    And yet another "Trump said this...." thread. From the sheer number of essentially redundant threads started by the same handful of posters, one would think the obsessed libs who start these over and over, would be grateful to Trump. For obviously adding meaning and purpose to their lives:rolleyes:...because it is apparent they have no other life than to whine & spout on a daily(sometimes hourly) basis.

    On the other hand, everyone outside of the "obsessed ones":p should be grateful as well---this is all giving us some prime entertainment.:D

    It may all be a well schemed plan to help boost the economy on Trump's part because if & when he changes tactics and goes on an extended period of blasting everything at 100% accuracy, the "obsessed ones" will seek out, and fill the mental health facilities with business.

    There's a lot to be thankful for indeed---meaning & purpose to life to those who apparently have no life, entertainment value & comedy gold while watching the whiners, and a forthcoming boom to the medical industry--specifically in the field of psychology/psychiatry.;)
     
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  9. ballastpointgator

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    Oops. I'm not a liberal. Darn. Wrong again. And I'll be sure to keep this one updated as the Toronto Star updates. Thanks!
     
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  10. fastsix

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    And it's already out of date.
    And now it's even more out of date.
    And now it's even more out of date still.
     
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  11. MaceoP

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    These false claims websites keep pointing out that Trump excludes 'services' in his numbers. Yet the census bureau and most major news outlets regularly report trade surplus/deficits as goods exported/imported and don't include services.
     
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    There are 274 claims related to Trade

    Even if I gave you those - how about the rest of the lies? Btw, how do you decide which lies to believe and which ones not to? How do you trust what he's saying? Or do you just believe everything he says? Help me out? For example, did you believe him when he said NK was no longer a nuclear threat?
     
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    Generally, the top-line number is "Trade Balance: Goods and Services, Balance of Payments Basis." Associated metrics, like balance on current account also include both goods and services.

    The census bureau also reports both the goods and services numbers separately, but those are not the main metric, which usually requires the usage of a specific identification of what you are discussing. It is a bit like saying that a claim that unemployment is currently 5.4% is not a lie because one particular unemployment measure says that it is. While true, generally, the correct procedure when using a non-headline rate is to state what you are doing so that your claims can be placed in proper context. Not doing so is an attempt to deceive.
     
  14. Gatorrick22

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    LMFAO! Well said... for a hater. :eek::rolleyes: :p
     
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  15. gator7_5

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    Toronto Trumpsessed much?
     
  16. Gatormb

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    So what, pray tell, are you and what do you think Trump can do better?

    Decrease unemployment to an 18 year low?
    Increase oil production to become energy independent?
    Defeat ISIS?
    Bring companies back to the US?
    Lower personal and corporate taxes?
     
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  17. Nawlens Gator

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    Kid stuff. Obama told twice as many lies but the liberal socialist media just took it for granted, didn't keep track, and just turned a blind eye without a mention in the press.
     
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  18. OklahomaGator

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    If that is how you are going to count it, Obama had to have said "....you can keep your doctor.." at least 10,000 times.
     
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  19. ballastpointgator

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    That's a load of BS and you know it. Obama isn't even president so your deflection is worthless. Btw, how do you tell which lies to believe and which ones not to? None of you can answer this simple question? Is it because you believe everything that tumbles out of his crap hole? Or you just know he's full of crap? Did you believe him when he said NK was no longer a nuclear threat? You did, didn't you. How does it feel to be a russian puppet?
     
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  20. ballastpointgator

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    What does Obama have to do with our current liar in chief?
     
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