Thou shall not dogpile in Omaha, stupid Holes!!!’

My take?

 

TJ is one of my favorites!

 

Never going to win it in Omaha with a bullpen that bad. That was an insult to baseball

 

Analytics will tell you what pitch to throw and where.

Mechanics allows you to do that and not throw your arm out.

All the analytics in the world won't help you if you don't have command of at least two pitches.

It isn't like this is all new stuff. Pitches have been tracked against batters since before I was a kid and I'm old. Before games the pitchers were told what to throw to which batters and it what counts. I loved a line in Ball Four when the Pilots were playing the Orioles and they all agreed that they should pitch to Frank Robinson underground. LOL.

 

Just an appropriate statement of fact for the thread—

This season:
When FSU was leading after 8 innings/ 31-0
When ORST was behind after 8 innings/ 0-12

If this helps at all…

 

Noles dont know how to 'safely' dog pile anyways..ask Blair Varnes.

 

Not only that but “11” started him with a full knee brace on his drive leg.

 

tore acl in dog pile in 99 supers win over AU... still pitched in CWs,, couldnt do anymore damage,, and still made all tourn team i think. have to dbl check that one. He pitched a full 4 years (100 ip each) w/out any arm issues I recall. Neverhad MLB stuff, but great college P

not sure on his pitch count but sounds about right.. didnt make top 5 though(since 81)
MOST PITCHES THROWN (SINCE 1981) 189, Darren Dilks, Oklahoma St. vs. Arizona St., 6-5-81 (11-10) 175, Erik Sonberg, Wichita St. vs. Oklahoma St., 6-9-82 (13-2) 172, Brooks Kieschnick, Texas vs. Oklahoma St., 6-5-93 (6-5) 169, Tim Davis, Florida St. vs. California, 5-31-92 (5-4) 167, Jason Young, Stanford vs. Florida St., 6-18-99 (14-11)

I notice the dates on al of those were post season time.. If you had a horse you rode him.

 

The dates of the top 5 ever thrown,, they were all in post season. may/june

And yeah, certainly a different era now.. teams didnt have near the pitching depth back then either, at least compared to their top guys. And now you have specialty guys in pen etc, though thats more of an MLB thing I guess. But it was norm in MLB to throw 150 pitches for a while too. Almost expected from aces.

 

I wont argue CMM rode arms.. other than saying it seemed a lot of the HCs in 80 90s that always showed up in Omaha were also guilty.

But not sure how it affected Varnes.

1999 Fr 11-2 4.13 109 IP
2000 So 11-4 3.88 116 IP
2001 Jr. 9-1 3. 61 114 IP
2002 Sr 10-3 3.98 106 IP

Prety much same thing every year.

 

Varnes did not make CWS All tourn team in 99 btw.. It was Chris Chavez.

Varnes took the loss in champ game 6IP 6 runs.

He also didnt pitch in Supers in 99 v AU,, they swept, he was gm 3 guy I guess. pitched v Citadel in regional, then champ gm of CWS . last 2 apperances of year. gave up 6 in both lol

 

Exactly—and I wouldn’t say this if it wasn’t the truth. It’s the only time I’ve ever seen Miami do anything right. The entire time Varnes was in the game I expected them to wear the third base line out bunting against him but not one single time did they put that kind of pressure on his knee.

That’s as close to a compliment as I can get.

 

Yeah, I remember FSU opened a season out in the state of Texas one year and “11” threw Richie Lewis a stupid number of pitches for any game, especially opening day. Seems like it was well over 150 pitches, don’t remember the exact number.