The attempt by California and 17 other states that follows their lead crashed and burned at the White House today: Trump Lauded for Signing Law to Stop California from Phasing Out Gas Cars In bipartisan voting, the congress sent President Trump 3 measures that end the requirement that the Biden Office of the President was enforcing to end all gasoline powered cars and trucks by 2035. The California laws can't even be carried out in California as federal law takes precedence: Trump Lauded for Signing Law to Stop California from Phasing Out Gas-Powered Cars: ‘This Is Not the United States of California’ Oh, and by the way, new car prices will be coming down approximately 10% while used car prices will be falling too. So much for Trump causing a recession, stagflation, and rampant inflation. Hats off to congress for this being bipartisan, 34 representatives and 1 senator voted for these measures.
And still the Dems are suing this? Lol... amazing that the Pubs used the same exact legal maneuver to pass this that the Dems did when they passed it.
The dems not only cannot sue this, the 3 measures were passed on a partisan basis. The SCOTUS would have to declare this commonsense legislation to be unconstitutional which isn't going to happen either. I guess the 17 states who wanted this can find a rogue federal district judge to rule for them, but it would never hold up just like so many of the other decisions by rogue federal district judges.
Looking forward to California increasing state gas taxes and vehicle registration fees on ICE vehicles so much that it is the same as banning them.
California's goal of no new gas powered cars by 2035 was aggressive. And unlikely to be met even before the new legislation. Still, stretch goals area often good for innovation. Electric cars have some obstacles yet to be overcome such as price, range, and time to recharge. With California's original goal, there was incentive to find solutions, and quickly. That's now off the table. And as for car prices, what evidence is there for a 10% average price drop? Wishful thinking? Steel tariffs are now in place, and even before that, average new car prices rose 1.5% in April and 1% in May. And that's with a spike in demand, as many rushed to buy before the tariffs kicked in. KBB expects prices to continue to rise, and the article highlights some models where MSRP is going up. Or in the case of Hyndai, incentives leaving, as they are discontinuing their 3 year, 36k warranty. Celebrate of you want. But if necessity is the mother of invention, Trump just removed the need to improve upon alternative fuel vehicles. And there's nothing suggesting a significant drop in car prices in the market. In fact, the opposite is more likely to occur.
I am confused why people are running here to celebrate the demise of innovation. I get the unrealistic goal on reducing gasoline vehicles, but to chase innovation overseas or to hostile countries? What was Henry Ford’s quote on giving the American people what they wanted at the turn of the century?
It was not a serious goal, it was a notice towards innovation. Poorly played by the democrats. The repeal was also not a serious act, more theatre.
On what basis do you make that determination? When the 2035 goal was set in 2020, in California EVs were 7.5% of new car sales. In 2024 EVs accounted for 25.3% of all new vehicle sales in California. You don’t think there was going to be innovation resulting in lower pricing, increased range, and faster charging over the following decade further cementing EVs as a superior product? Hell, we’ve already seen a mass produced $35,000 vehicle from Chevy that gets 315 miles on a single charge. Certainly it is a stretch goal but to not call it serious is completely wrong in my opinion.
Forget EV’s I remember our clown Republicans stating Obama’s mileage standards were an impossible goal and would cripple the economy. Either that or we’d all be driving around tiny shit box cars because of it. How’d that fear mongering work out? In the end those standards were easily achieved and if anything the govt had way too many exceptions/loophole which neutralized the potential for much more air quality improvement. I doubt the entire country can be 100% EV by 2035, I’ve never called for that step. But I can see a handful of the biggest cities wanting to go that route to improve air quality/quality of life - given advancements in tech it also doesn’t seem some crazy unachievable goal. Gas powered cars won’t disappear overnight and will be on roads well beyond 2035 either way.
Personally, I thought California's mandate phasing out ICE vehicles was a step too far. That being said I always thought that the Republican Party was the party of states rights and was against an overreaching federal government. Apparently that's not the case under Trump especially with respect to "blue states". It should also be noted that California had been permitted to impose its own automobile emission requirement at least going back to 1970. The directive from the Dear Leader overruling California's EV mandate is just another example of Trump being against environmental regulations primarily because they are supported by Democrats and it's also another indicator that GOP is an acronym for Gas and Oil Party.
To your last point, people act like it means all ICE have to be off the road by 2035 which is not the case at all. Further, there is purpose to this kind of regulation. Regulation can create markets and speed innovation. It creates certainty for manufacturers.
Trump has been presenting the regulation as mandating that all ICE vehicles have to be off the road in California by 2035 when it in fact prohibits the sale of new ICE vehicles beginning in 2035. Although I still think it's a step too far there is a huge difference.
Conversely, y'all's celebration of the commerce clause as the skeleton key to federalize anything and everything, somehow became negotiable and invisible, when it comes to @#$&'n cars--the thing most used to transgress Statelines.
