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The U.S. loses its Moody's AAA credit rating

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by citygator, May 18, 2025 at 6:45 PM.

  1. gator_jo

    gator_jo GC Hall of Fame

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    I know, it's crazy.

    Just look at all those people who died with a heart attack. The heart attack was pretty irrelevant- they would have died anyway some day with something else.

    And all those healthy people with covid didn't transmit it to numerous other people or anything. That was a myth that the bad bad experts foisted upon the great and knowledgeable Trump. :)
     
  2. magnetofsnatch

    magnetofsnatch Rudy Ray Moore’s Idol Premium Member

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    Kind of like the myth that if you stay 6 feet away you’ll be fine or if you get the vaccine you won’t be able to get COVID or transmit the disease?
     
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  3. SotaGator

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  4. QGator2414

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    You can link anything you want. It does not change the fact that multiple states had schools closed until the fall of 2021.

    The funny thing is you surly agreed with Trump's decision to shut down and surly disagreed with his push to reopen when he did. I am sure you agreed with Biden that people should have been forced to take a shot they did not need. I think you understood how stupid it was to keep kids out of school? I sure hope you did.
     
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  5. gator_jo

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    Except that nobody really said those things. But if it makes you feel better to assert a mistruth so you can argue it down, who am I to get in the way of your pleasure.
     
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  6. tilly

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    I actually agree with this post completely...BUT...How come the left hates the "its not fair argument" when it comes to school choice and abortion?

    I know. I know. Off topic. ;)
     
  7. PITBOSS

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    Cutting taxes and increasing the level of borrowing can make any economy look good, for awhile.
    Trump - “Jet skis and gold chains for everyone - just finance it!”
     
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  8. citygator

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    There is no economic activity in a school. This thread is about economics. Keep up. Biden opened the economy. Trump shut it down. I WAS THERE. I saw it. I linked it. Keep throwing your fit.
     
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  9. citygator

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    Nothing says covid mask and vaccine denial thread like one on Moody's ratings cuts.

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  10. magnetofsnatch

    magnetofsnatch Rudy Ray Moore’s Idol Premium Member

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    The Federal Government took in 4.92 trillion in revenue in 2024. The only year higher was 2022 which will be surpassed by 2025 at current pace. Do we think there’s a slight spending problem or should we increase taxes to collect 10 Trillion?
     
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  11. QGator2414

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    No. Florida was open long before Biden took office. Biden tried to inflict authoritarian rule by pressuring companies to force workers to take a shot though..
     
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  12. gator_jo

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    You think we should target eliminating the debt by over $3 trillion per fiscal year? Weird.

    Also - look at that amazing revenue collected by Diamond Joe. Thank God for that guy. Here comes the Trump again, though, with his giveaways to the rich and his cronies. Gonna blow up the deficit, again, and just keep expanding the debt. What a LOSER!
     
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  13. demosthenes

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    I think it’s both. Unfortunately, the nature of the beast is that it’s much easier to raise taxes than figure out what to cut from the budget (as Musk found out).
     
  14. magnetofsnatch

    magnetofsnatch Rudy Ray Moore’s Idol Premium Member

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    Oh I agree completely. You have to raise taxes and reduce spending. Problem is it will crush lower and middle income families which will then vote the regime out for a “new vision” which will just go back to the same old formula. It’s a recurring theme of dogshit that I don’t think ever gets resolved until the US is insolvent.
     
  15. citygator

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    Richest nation in the World says “there is no way for us to survive if we don’t raise money from the poor and working class.”
     
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  16. magnetofsnatch

    magnetofsnatch Rudy Ray Moore’s Idol Premium Member

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    That’s not what I said but go on Indy.
     
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  17. citygator

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    A good example is cutting 14M off Medicaid who are all citizens.

     
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  18. magnetofsnatch

    magnetofsnatch Rudy Ray Moore’s Idol Premium Member

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    So your solution is to simply raise taxes on the highest earners and keep the entitlements status quo? That’s the way out of this debt?
     
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  19. citygator

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    Doubling down I see. Richest nation in the World says “there is no way for us to survive if we don’t raise money take money from the poor and working class.”

    Seems weird to think the answer is taking something (taxes or benefits) from those at the bottom for the RICHEST nation in the world. No?
     
  20. PITBOSS

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    our population & gdp are also bigger than ever. So revenue will increase.

    Not to mention , our debt is massive. 125% of gdp. 20 years ago it was like 60% of gdp.

    is there any intention of paying that debt down? - or even paying our own way? Yes Biden did it also, but trump/maga leadership isn’t slowing down on borrowing.

    A better gauge might be ALL taxes as a percent of GDP. How does that percent compare to history? Also, how does it compare to other developed countries.