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The Root Cause of Florida’s Decline

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by duggers_dad, Sep 15, 2024.

  1. MaceoP

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    The defining moment in the race to the bottom was when Chump hired the Cheeseburger. Meyer's team was built for speed and the spread option. Muschamp took that team and put in a man who ran a conventional TOP O. It turned out Charlies O was not schematically superior, as the Cheeseburger called it. From that point on, they used Brantley. We did have Jordan Reed on the team, who could have been a very effective Spread QB.
     
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  2. wingtee

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    Mccalwain was after Champ was he not
     
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  3. ocalaman

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    Should have used "Free Fallin'" instead.
     
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  4. phideltdj

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    When Saban left the Dolphins job for Bama...big turning point.
     
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  5. Wanne15

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    That creates losers immediately. I mean , what type of person makes such a weak decision.
     
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  6. Wanne15

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    Saban got rid of him knowing he needed a better offense to keep up.
     
  7. crescent_beach

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    How about since the elimination of the “Gator Bait” chant?
     
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  8. scooterp

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    2 & 1/2 good seasons with Mullen, but that’s about it. But I wouldn’t go there. It’s a pretty cool tradition we started. Don’t want it to go away.
     
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  9. BrianUF5220

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    Or Molly Hatchet "Dreams I'll Never See". Jacksonville is close enough.
     
  10. Wanne15

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    Since our coaches and players weren’t the best money could buy and we started bargain shopping
     
  11. gatorinmi

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    And I'm pretty sure Meyer's last recruiting class was ranked #1.
     
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  12. gatorbreeder

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    Someone do the W/L since they got rid of the Gator Bait cheer. We all know it isn't in any way racist. Who cares if some black child was used as alligator bait by his father in some OBSCURE book?

    Edit: Wouldn't you know it, that happened in the summer of 2020. The shoe toss didn't start this horrible football, the loss of our cheer led to the shoe throw and all the rest. "If you ain't a Gator, you're Gator Bait, baby!" Lawrence Wright.
     
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  13. partdopy

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    Turning point was Brantley's injury against Alabama. He looked pretty good that year and his injury got driskel in who was not prepared and broke his confidence. Never regained long term continuity offensively after that.
     
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  14. airgator96

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    The root cause is people (AD's) trying to hire the next big thing without the candidates having the history (more than 5 years) of proven success as the top dog.

    Meyer had success everywhere and then did it at UTAH. It was a logical hire.

    Billy Donovan was more of a risk, but it was a home run.

    Spurrier had success in the USFL and at Duke, again a logic hire.

    Look at our coaches who have failed, they all had similar stories. Small schools with little track records or life time coordinators with no head coaching experience. 95% of the time this is not going to end well.
     
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  15. gbranton

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    Yep. Somewhere out there on the internet there was a well written story with a timeline of all the Newton/Brantley events along with Urb’s statements and fake retirement that puts it all in perspective but I can’t find the story now. Think hard about the players that were passing through the program at that time and how Urban Meyer covered for them when they broke the law or failed drug tests and contrast that with the laptop story and tell me it makes sense.
     
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  16. gatorwalrus

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    The problem is AD's not having a deep understanding of what the job they are hiring for requires. Then they get sold a vision and next thing you know everyone is asking about what the buyout is.
     
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  17. MarineG8R

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    I blame bourbon.
     
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  18. 31g8r

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    No the defining moment was when JF didn't have a short list of viable interested candidates already in his possession. Hell he had all of 2010 to compile the list. There were no lessons learned when the ol ball coach said see ya after the 2001 season.

    Always have a list of people you want working for you. The last 4 hires were down the list hires to save face while under criticism for failing to land initial candidates. Every hire is a risk but you cant repeat the same terrible process over and over
     
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  19. KronoGator

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    Oh Foley had a shortlist, there was one name on it, he was enthralled with Muschamp.
     
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  20. CHFG8R

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    Who said it wasn't?