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The Greatest College Basketball Programs Ever: Ranking the top teams of all time

Discussion in 'Nuttin' but Net' started by Juggernautz, Nov 20, 2020.

  1. Juggernautz

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  2. akaGatorhoops

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    Seems low.
    without digging too much into the criteria. I’d have thought we would be top 20.
    But, prior to Donovan..., Florida has very, very little history. I’ve always contended that it is a false argument to critique White based on what he “inherited”. I don’t think he inherited much beyond expectations... as I’ve always felt the success and perception of Florida was almost exclusively tied to Billy.
    This poll seems to suggest the same.
     
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  3. bgator85

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    Seems like way too little emphasis on tournament success. No way we should be between Alabama and Tennessee.
     
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  4. GolphinGator

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    Not sure about that list. We are only ranked 1 spot ahead of Alabama and we have final 4 and NC's. Does not seem correct to me looking at some of the other teams but guess that is their formula and I think it is off in my mind because it goes back way before my time adding NCAA championships for teams that have not been so good the last 50 years..
     
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  5. tampajack1

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    I guess that you could say the same thing about the coaches who followed Spurrier.
     
  6. akaGatorhoops

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    The fan following, regional interest, uaa support, budget, national exposure, etc. is significantly stronger for football than it is basketball.
     
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  7. GatorPlanet

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    That alone renders the ranking worthless. Does Bama even have a single Elite 8 appearance?
     
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    2004?
     
  9. jeffphillips21

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    the fix is in
     
  10. INGATORSWETRUST

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    B2B Gator team way higher than 40 and I’ve seen lists where that team is top 10 in the past.
     
  11. GatorPlanet

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    The article is supposedly rating the top programs of all time, not the top teams. Yet of course the article's title uses the word "teams," so that's one more indicator that the author is clueless. He hasn't even got a handle on definitions. Most likely, he lives in his mom's basement.
     
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  12. tampajack1

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    It’s a great article and the writer is exceptional. I do disagree with his formula somewhat. He gives only three points to NIT championships, when that is way too uniform. The NIT championships that were won when the NIT was the premier post-season tournament in the country should’ve gotten the same weight as the NCAA championship titles once they became the premier post – season championships. However, all in all, it is an excellent analysis, and he has done a lot of work in putting it together.
     
  13. oragator1

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    We didn’t even make a tournament for the first 50 years of it. We had one great 15 or so year run and one really fortunate run in 1994. Probably fair to say that doesn’t make up for everything else.

    do agree we should be ahead of Bama though.
     
  14. bgator85

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    I would argue it does. Winning championships and having significant post season success elevates a program to another level. Tennessee has one E8 in their history. They don’t have anywhere near the post season pedigree to be ahead of a program with 5 F4s and 2 NCs.
     
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  15. philnotfil

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    We had Vernon Maxwell in the 80s, but that is all erased. We had a scrappy team that over-achieved to the final four in 1994, and that is pretty much the entirety of our pre-Billy history. If they started with the 90s we would be top ten. But if you include all the ancient history, we don't compare well. White (.6+) is the only non-Billy (0.7+) coach to have a winning percentage to start with a number higher than .5

    I think we only finished the season ranked once prior to Billy, and that was the 94 find a way team.
     
  16. tampajack1

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    That is surprising. Didn’t one of the Neal Walk teams go some thing like 21 and four?
     
  17. GatorTodd

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    1966/67 team.
     
  18. tampajack1

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    Any idea if they had national rankings back then?
     
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  20. philnotfil

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    The media guide has us ranked for two weeks in 66-67 (that was the 21-4 season, second in the SEC) and one week in 68-69 with Neal Walk. Then 14 weeks with Vernon Maxwell across 86-88, and the first three weeks of 88-89 after he graduated. But not ranked by the end of any of those seasons. (that is all AP polls)