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The Good and Bad about Omar Payne

Discussion in 'Nuttin' but Net' started by tampajack1, Jan 21, 2019.

  1. tampajack1

    tampajack1 Premium Member

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    The good is that he should be in the program for several years. The bad is that he didn't play much today, he didn't play hard, and he didn't show much.
     
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  2. akaGatorhoops

    akaGatorhoops VIP Member GC Columnist

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    Huh.

    That is surprising, considering what are perceived to be his strengths.

    Maybe a function of the game score.
     
  3. Matherly87

    Matherly87 VIP Member

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    Yes the move to Montverde has not been the best for Payne so far. Last year at Kissimmee Osceola he was in the right place for him. He used to out work and out hustle most every other center they faced on the way to winning the state championship. Now at Montverde with so much talent around him he is getting lost in the shuffle. Tough to say how that translates to his play here at Florida. He may not be an elite talent but he will still be better than most centers we have signed at Florida since Noah and Horford.
     
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  4. GratefulGator

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    Don't forget Patric Young!
     
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  5. gatorbogey

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    Saving himself for UF.
     
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  6. tampajack1

    tampajack1 Premium Member

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    He didn't start, and I doubt that he played 10 minutes. He almost certainly is in the coach's dog house.
     
  7. SJB612

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    Then he should fit right in here.
     
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  8. channingcrowderhungry

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    That's one of the funnier posts I've seen in a while.
     
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  9. BLING

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    Well... this doesn't sound too promising. I have to think he's ranked top 50 for a reason. Though of course we've had our fair share of "ranked" players that were comically misranked, Donovan himself had a ton of busts. We really can't afford for that to be the case on this one. He doesn't need to be a 20 and 10 guy (very few of those around), but he needs to be an 8 and 10 guy. He's got to at least be a legit defensive specialist.
     
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  10. mkmoney

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    Of course our highly recruited big looks to be a bust... :(

    We need to have some kind of cleansing ritual. I think Chris Walker has cursed every big to come to Florida since.
     
  11. Matherly87

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    Yes I thought about giving special mention to Patric. In a way I kind of compare Payne's game to Patric's. I don't mean body size but as a rebounder, offensive put backs, and shot blocker. I almost wanted to say Omar Payne is a mix between Patric Young and K Hayes. Pat always seemed to have consistency issues and we kept hoping he would end up this 14 points 10 rebounds a night guy but was more about the team than his own stats. The one thing I like more about Omar is his ability to run the floor. That could be a big difference of any center in the last 10 years.
     
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  12. Matherly87

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    Not fair, Walker played on a HS team with no starter taller than 5'11". Of course he looked better than advertised. Payne has already led his HS team to the state title in big boy basketball. Don't judge Payne's lack of production at Montverde as looking like a bust. Emmitt Williams struggled at IMG and many personal issues before highlighting his abilities at Oak Ridge. Now he his contributing almost 9 points and 7 rebounds a game at LSU in his freshman year. I don't necessarily compare Payne with Scottie Lewis because Scottie is going to light it up next year. Payne will be the guy that benefits from everyone's good fortune just like Nembhard will be a much better player on the floor next year with Scottie Lewis to dish to.
     
  13. mkmoney

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    Not comparing him to Walker. Just saying that every big recruited since Walker has been a disappointment, injured, or both. It's like a curse or something. I can't ever remember a player more hyped than Walker come to Florida and he was a complete bust. Ever since then UF basketball has had nothing but bad luck. Billy leaves. Egbunu goes down. Chase, Stone, Stokes, Gak all get injured. Hudson forgets how to play basketball.
     
  14. diamondted13

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    At this point, I'm just hoping for a "rich man's" K. Hayes. Hopefully more explosive, stronger (eventually), and w/ much better hands. KH could easily have averaged double figures w/ decent hands.
     
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  15. cincinnatigator

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    Yep, although that's all mental. Or maybe Hayes got new contacts before last game because he had much better hands last game and almost got a double double.
     
  16. diamondted13

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    Is it a mental thing when you miss as many dunks (if not more) as you've made in your Gator career? I've rarely seen a player fight the ball as much as KH.
     
  17. cincinnatigator

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    I think it’s very mental for him when he gets the ball close to the basket and his only instinct is to find someone to pass to instead of trying to get a basket.
     
  18. diamondted13

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    I agree w/ that part. Even still, just not fumbling easy passes and putback/dunk opportunities and he is a double figure scorer. I'm sure Payne can do that. But we also need a more instinctive and tenacious rebounder in Payne.
     
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  19. HallGator

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    We might want to wait for Payne to actually get here and start playing before we pronounce him a bust.
     
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  20. tampajack1

    tampajack1 Premium Member

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    I don’t think he will be a bust, but he seems to be in the dog house at Montverde. That might turn out to be a positive. He is now learning about hard work, team work, effort, etc.
     
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