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The Gators BBAll Mount Rushmore...

Discussion in 'Nuttin' but Net' started by akaGatorhoops, Jul 18, 2019.

  1. channingcrowderhungry

    channingcrowderhungry Premium Member

    Apr 3, 2007
    Bottom of a pint glass
    CoachSayre is the 4th
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  2. GatorLurker

    GatorLurker GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 8, 2007
    Mount Rushmore has Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, and TR.

    That is two Founding Fathers, a President that preserved the Union when it was falling apart, and a then a contemporary President in the time that the monument was conceived that was instrumental in setting up the National Parks.

    Maybe Walk is our Washington (a warrior that won against traditional powers), Donovan our Jefferson (the architect of our program. I know that Madison is more of the architect of our country, but Jefferson was a very smart guy.), Lon Kruger as our Lincoln (he cleaned up a real big mess), and I've got to think some about our TR. Maybe Noah.
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  3. Ahab

    Ahab GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 3, 2007
    Mad Max!
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  4. gatorbogey

    gatorbogey GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 3, 2007
    s. e. florida
  5. akaGatorhoops

    akaGatorhoops VIP Member GC Columnist

    Apr 10, 2007
    He’d probably make my hall of shame. Lol!
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  6. nobbqsauce

    nobbqsauce All American

    Nov 21, 2018
    Just players....
    Neal Walk. Stats dont lie
    Jason Williams... The first dynamite player for Donovan
    Mike Miller...First true recruiting battle win
    Big Al...not the flashiest but the steadiest. Mature leader of the 04s
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  7. OklahomaGator

    OklahomaGator Jedi Administrator Moderator VIP Member

    Apr 3, 2007
    My unofficial tally:
    Donovan 16
    Noah 13
    Miller 10
    Walk 8
    Horford 7
    Haslem 5
    Kruger, Foley, J. Will, 2
    Moten, Maxwell, R. Williams, Schnitzius, Daupay O'Connell, Chiozza Cross, Brown, 1
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  8. 33hoop

    33hoop VIP Member

    Apr 8, 2007
    Lexington, KY
    I would have bet money that your choices would have been Chiozza smiling, Chiozza serious, Chiozza winking, and Chiozza doing duck lips.
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  9. bakaduin

    bakaduin VIP Member

    Apr 3, 2007
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  10. tampajack1

    tampajack1 Premium Member

    Apr 3, 2007
    No on the duck lips.
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  11. hobegator

    hobegator Junior

    May 16, 2017
    Hobe Sound
    Mount Rushmore was started in 1927. That's only the 1st 60% or so of US history. Some great presidents such as FDR, JFK and Regan were not around yet. I am therefore cutting off my picks around 2001 to weight it more toward the early pioneers:

    Norm Sloan - pushed the envelope and then some but put UF Basketball on the map
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  12. ncbullgator15

    ncbullgator15 Junior

    Jul 16, 2019
    I was hoping we would have had the court named for Billy by now.
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  13. SeabudGator

    SeabudGator GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 23, 2014
    Can’t do that yet b/c he could come back and coach a rival sec team. Clearly deserved, but can’t imagine playing UK with Donovan as their coach in the Billy dome.
  14. Gatorbait2784

    Gatorbait2784 GC Hall of Fame

    Oct 23, 2007
    Mine goes:

    Billy (Gator bball wouldn't be Gator bball without him)
    Horford (Most successful NBA career of the 04's)
    Beal (might be our most talented Gator ever)
    Cheeze (All time assist leader and hit some of the most memorable shots in March)
  15. RD_gator

    RD_gator GC Hall of Fame

    Jul 20, 2007
    Well in that case, for Florida basketball, it would have to be the following in my book:
    Norm Sloan, Lon Kruger, Billy Donovan, Mike White (reserved space after another 3-6 years of success at UF).

    1. Norm Sloan - Sloan was the first, full-time basketball coach at Florida who had two tenures (1960s, 1980s) with Florida - that's very unusual if one thinks about it. Before that, there used to be mainly assistant football coaches or something that coached many of the SEC basketball teams during the 1930s/40s/50s - you can tell how seriously basketball was taken back in those days.

    Florida–Kentucky men's basketball rivalry - Wikipedia
    Under Sloan, Florida had their first home win over Adolph Rupp's Kentucky wildcats in "Gator Alley" (aka Florida Gymnasium) and followed up with UF's first road win over the wildcats in Lexington to make the series (3-24) up to that point - the first UF win over Kentucky came in the 1934 SEC tournament as UF made the finals only to lose that game. As Florida historian Norm Carlson stated "Sloan elevated the Gators basketball program from 'an intramural program' and built up the grass roots of Florida basketball". That turnaround at UF must have gotten the attention of North Carolina St (his alma mater) who hired Sloan away from Florida.
    Florida Gators men's basketball - Wikipedia

    Sloan left enough talent for the next coach (Bartlett) to take Florida to their first ever post-season tournament (NIT) behind Neal Walk's stellar play. After winning a national title at NC ST with an undefeated team (27-0) that had managed to stop John Wooden's UCLA's 7-straight national title run in the early 1970s, Sloan returned to Florida and began the modern era of Florida basketball in the newly built basketball arena, the O'Connell Center. Sloan recruited Florida's first three McDonald All-Americans (Eugene McDowell, Dwayne Schintzius & Stacey Poole), numerous star players that are still in the Florida record books (i.e, Neal Walk (from '60s), Ronnie Williams, Andrew Moten, Vernon Maxwell, ?Vernon Delancy, Eugene McDowell, Ronnie Montgomery, Stacey Poole, etc.), led UF to their first three NCAA Tournaments (1st SW16 - 1987) and their first SEC Title in 1989. Unfortunately, his tenure ended in scandal and was unceremoniously fired. After 14 total seasons, Norm Sloan was the winningest coach (235-194) in Florida history before Billy Donovan later won over 400+ games at Florida.

    2. Lon Kruger - Kruger was hired away from his alma mater (Kansas-St) to pick up the pieces after Florida's program lost many of their players to transfer due to a terrible basketball hire (Devoe) who ran the program into the ground (a 7-21 season in '89-90). Kruger took Florida to unprecedented heights with numerous, post-season appearances including Florida's first Final4 in 1994. Kruger ranks 4th (104-80) in Florida's all-time wins. After Florida, Kruger had managed to take five total college teams to the NCAA tournament and a second team (oklahoma) to the Final4 as well.

    3. Billy Donovan - The accomplishments of Donovan's teams/players contributed to the bulk of Florida basketball success:
    6 SEC titles (4 SEC Tournament titles)
    4 Final Fours
    Two National Titles
    14 NCAA Tournaments (4 more Elite 8's)
    Two SEC Player of the Years (Parson, Wilbekin)
    McDonald All-Americans recruited to Florida (15):
    Teddy Dupay, Mike Miller, Brett Nelson, Donnell Harvey,
    David Lee, James White, Kwame Brown (1st pick of ?2001/2 draft); Corey Brewer, Nick Calathes, Jai Lucas, Kenny Boynton, Patrick Young, Bradley Beal, Kasey Hill & Chris Walker.

    Numerous other NBA players: Matt Bonner, Udonis Haslem, Mike Miller, Jason Williams, Joakim Noah, Al Horford, Corey Brewer, Brad Beal, Maurice Speights, Chandler Parsons, Dorian Finney-Smith, etc.

    Florida Gators Coaches | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com
    4. Mike White: After four seasons, White is 7th on the all-time Coach's winning list (89-53) and has the second highest winning percentage (62.7%) behind Donovan (71.5%). White has done a solid if not amazing job in continuing to build up Florida Basketball after the exit of a Hall of Famer Coach in Billy Donovan. White has taken Florida to three straight NCAA Tournaments and the 2017 Elite8. White's recruiting has really picked up in landing not only out-standing transfers (i.e, Kerry Blackshear) but two of his first McDonald All-Americans (Scottie Lewis, Tre Mann): Florida has signed a total of 20 McDonald All-Americans in their history. In the coming years, Florida basketball fans will have a lot to look forward to as White continues his tenure.

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  16. madgator

    madgator GC Hall of Fame

    May 28, 2007

    Udonis is too much of a University of Miami fan to be on our Rushmore.

    So replace him with Al
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  17. akaGatorhoops

    akaGatorhoops VIP Member GC Columnist

    Apr 10, 2007
    That’s actually a pretty good argument.
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  18. regurgigator

    regurgigator VIP Member

    Apr 3, 2007
    Seattle area
    Walk, Miller, Noah and Horford.
  19. madgator

    madgator GC Hall of Fame

    May 28, 2007

    They'll have to crush the blast stones below Mad Max (Schintzus as well if he made it) into a very fine powder for historical accuracy
  20. madgator

    madgator GC Hall of Fame

    May 28, 2007

    It's sad but true