Discussion in 'Nuttin' but Net' started by akaGatorhoops, Jul 18, 2019.
CoachSayre is the 4th
Mount Rushmore has Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, and TR.
That is two Founding Fathers, a President that preserved the Union when it was falling apart, and a then a contemporary President in the time that the monument was conceived that was instrumental in setting up the National Parks.
Maybe Walk is our Washington (a warrior that won against traditional powers), Donovan our Jefferson (the architect of our program. I know that Madison is more of the architect of our country, but Jefferson was a very smart guy.), Lon Kruger as our Lincoln (he cleaned up a real big mess), and I've got to think some about our TR. Maybe Noah.
He’d probably make my hall of shame. Lol!
Neal Walk. Stats dont lie
Jason Williams... The first dynamite player for Donovan
Mike Miller...First true recruiting battle win
Big Al...not the flashiest but the steadiest. Mature leader of the 04s
My unofficial tally:
Kruger, Foley, J. Will, 2
Moten, Maxwell, R. Williams, Schnitzius, Daupay O'Connell, Chiozza Cross, Brown, 1
I would have bet money that your choices would have been Chiozza smiling, Chiozza serious, Chiozza winking, and Chiozza doing duck lips.
No on the duck lips.
Mount Rushmore was started in 1927. That's only the 1st 60% or so of US history. Some great presidents such as FDR, JFK and Regan were not around yet. I am therefore cutting off my picks around 2001 to weight it more toward the early pioneers:
Norm Sloan - pushed the envelope and then some but put UF Basketball on the map
I was hoping we would have had the court named for Billy by now.
Can’t do that yet b/c he could come back and coach a rival sec team. Clearly deserved, but can’t imagine playing UK with Donovan as their coach in the Billy dome.
Billy (Gator bball wouldn't be Gator bball without him)
Horford (Most successful NBA career of the 04's)
Beal (might be our most talented Gator ever)
Cheeze (All time assist leader and hit some of the most memorable shots in March)
Well in that case, for Florida basketball, it would have to be the following in my book:
Norm Sloan, Lon Kruger, Billy Donovan, Mike White (reserved space after another 3-6 years of success at UF).
1. Norm Sloan - Sloan was the first, full-time basketball coach at Florida who had two tenures (1960s, 1980s) with Florida - that's very unusual if one thinks about it. Before that, there used to be mainly assistant football coaches or something that coached many of the SEC basketball teams during the 1930s/40s/50s - you can tell how seriously basketball was taken back in those days.
Florida–Kentucky men's basketball rivalry - Wikipedia
Under Sloan, Florida had their first home win over Adolph Rupp's Kentucky wildcats in "Gator Alley" (aka Florida Gymnasium) and followed up with UF's first road win over the wildcats in Lexington to make the series (3-24) up to that point - the first UF win over Kentucky came in the 1934 SEC tournament as UF made the finals only to lose that game. As Florida historian Norm Carlson stated "Sloan elevated the Gators basketball program from 'an intramural program' and built up the grass roots of Florida basketball". That turnaround at UF must have gotten the attention of North Carolina St (his alma mater) who hired Sloan away from Florida.
Florida Gators men's basketball - Wikipedia
Sloan left enough talent for the next coach (Bartlett) to take Florida to their first ever post-season tournament (NIT) behind Neal Walk's stellar play. After winning a national title at NC ST with an undefeated team (27-0) that had managed to stop John Wooden's UCLA's 7-straight national title run in the early 1970s, Sloan returned to Florida and began the modern era of Florida basketball in the newly built basketball arena, the O'Connell Center. Sloan recruited Florida's first three McDonald All-Americans (Eugene McDowell, Dwayne Schintzius & Stacey Poole), numerous star players that are still in the Florida record books (i.e, Neal Walk (from '60s), Ronnie Williams, Andrew Moten, Vernon Maxwell, ?Vernon Delancy, Eugene McDowell, Ronnie Montgomery, Stacey Poole, etc.), led UF to their first three NCAA Tournaments (1st SW16 - 1987) and their first SEC Title in 1989. Unfortunately, his tenure ended in scandal and was unceremoniously fired. After 14 total seasons, Norm Sloan was the winningest coach (235-194) in Florida history before Billy Donovan later won over 400+ games at Florida.
2. Lon Kruger - Kruger was hired away from his alma mater (Kansas-St) to pick up the pieces after Florida's program lost many of their players to transfer due to a terrible basketball hire (Devoe) who ran the program into the ground (a 7-21 season in '89-90). Kruger took Florida to unprecedented heights with numerous, post-season appearances including Florida's first Final4 in 1994. Kruger ranks 4th (104-80) in Florida's all-time wins. After Florida, Kruger had managed to take five total college teams to the NCAA tournament and a second team (oklahoma) to the Final4 as well.
3. Billy Donovan - The accomplishments of Donovan's teams/players contributed to the bulk of Florida basketball success:
6 SEC titles (4 SEC Tournament titles)
4 Final Fours
Two National Titles
14 NCAA Tournaments (4 more Elite 8's)
Two SEC Player of the Years (Parson, Wilbekin)
McDonald All-Americans recruited to Florida (15):
Teddy Dupay, Mike Miller, Brett Nelson, Donnell Harvey,
David Lee, James White, Kwame Brown (1st pick of ?2001/2 draft); Corey Brewer, Nick Calathes, Jai Lucas, Kenny Boynton, Patrick Young, Bradley Beal, Kasey Hill & Chris Walker.
Numerous other NBA players: Matt Bonner, Udonis Haslem, Mike Miller, Jason Williams, Joakim Noah, Al Horford, Corey Brewer, Brad Beal, Maurice Speights, Chandler Parsons, Dorian Finney-Smith, etc.
Florida Gators Coaches | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com
4. Mike White: After four seasons, White is 7th on the all-time Coach's winning list (89-53) and has the second highest winning percentage (62.7%) behind Donovan (71.5%). White has done a solid if not amazing job in continuing to build up Florida Basketball after the exit of a Hall of Famer Coach in Billy Donovan. White has taken Florida to three straight NCAA Tournaments and the 2017 Elite8. White's recruiting has really picked up in landing not only out-standing transfers (i.e, Kerry Blackshear) but two of his first McDonald All-Americans (Scottie Lewis, Tre Mann): Florida has signed a total of 20 McDonald All-Americans in their history. In the coming years, Florida basketball fans will have a lot to look forward to as White continues his tenure.
Udonis is too much of a University of Miami fan to be on our Rushmore.
So replace him with Al
That’s actually a pretty good argument.
Walk, Miller, Noah and Horford.
They'll have to crush the blast stones below Mad Max (Schintzus as well if he made it) into a very fine powder for historical accuracy
It's sad but true