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The FBI’s Investigation Into Trump and Russia Now Looks Even Worse

Discussion in 'GatorNana's Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by gator10010, Jun 4, 2020.

  1. gator10010

    gator10010 GC Hall of Fame

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    Lost in the pandemic and riot coverage is this investigation. The left's claims about Trump and Russia are falling apart fast. Looks like Trump and Russia colluding was indeed a hoax.

    Just like that everyone who was being praised by the left as heroes a couple of years ago have gone into cya mode..... interesting.

    From the articles:

    By August 2017, it was clear that there was no support for “the whole concept that the campaign was colluding with the Russians,” said Senator Lindsey Graham at the hearing. “There was no there there.”

    “I agree with that general statement,” Rosenstein responded.

    Pick your flavor for the source of the quote

    Rosenstein acknowledges problems with FBI's Russia probe but defends Mueller's appointment

    Rosenstein testifies he would not have signed FISA warrant for Trump aide if he knew of problems | Fox News

    The FBI’s Investigation Into Trump and Russia Now Looks Even Worse
     
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  2. BigCypressGator1981

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    Nobody cares anymore.
     
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  3. gator10010

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    You mean liberals don't care anymore because they were wrong.
     
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  4. orangeblue_coop

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    Speaking of hoaxes, how’s Obamagate going?
     
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  5. gogata125

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    The Flynn-Kislyak transcript was plenty of predication for the investigation by itself.
     
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  6. BLING

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    This is bollocks. Trump’s own public statements and actions warranted an investigation, particularly after his firing of the FBI director.

    There’s no alt reality that changes what Trump said at rallies and to Lester Holt, he admitted he fired Comey to “make the Russia thing go away”. If he was innocent, which I still doubt, then he’s a fool for taking actions which made himself look guilty. For committing a plain act of “obstruction of justice” and then declaring it on national tv (along with the 10 or whatever other examples Mueller found).

    Of course based on his actions in Ukraine and his continued courting of Putin, theres no reason to think Trump is innocent of anything. Most likely we haven’t even scratched the surface of this admins criminality.
     
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  7. citygator

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    Another thing Trump screwed up. Cooperate with investigation and move on like Hillary and Benghazi, or Obama and the investigation into his tan suit scandal. Trump escalates everything into a full speed crash with a brick wall. Speeding towards one now.
     
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  8. GatorNorth

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    Another noble public servant covering his a** after the fact.

    How many chances did he have to shut it down after he was in charge?

    Flynn lied about Russian contacts
    Sessions lied about Russian contacts
    Kushner lied about Russian contacts.
    They all lied about Russian contacts.

    So while there may have been no “collusion” in the legal sense (I’m not going to re-litigate the Mueller report), the right would have been screaming bloody murder for an investigation had the left lied about as many contacts and meetings with Russian agents as the Trump admin did, and rightfully so.

    Here Are All the Times Donald Trump and His Associates Intersected With Russians

    Trump’s Russia Cover-Up By the Numbers – 251 contacts with Russia-linked operatives

    Mueller report: Why did Trump aides lie to protect him in Russia probe
     
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  9. gogata125

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    Trump fans think that warranted investigations that don't lead to criminal charges were illegitimate.

    Except for Benghazi or Hillary's emails.
     
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  10. AndyGator

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    FIFY:

    Trump fans think that warranted investigations that were obstructed and don't lead to criminal charges were illegitimate.
     
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  11. GatorNorth

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    it’s worse than that-any investigation that discovers smoke against the President is a “Democratic hoax”, but any one that discovers smoke against one of his enemies proves “treason”.
     
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  12. VAg8r1

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    Even conceding that the application for the FISA warrant authorizing the surveillance of Carter Page was so flawed that the warrant should have never been issued, the surveillance of Page was only a very small part of the investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 presidential campaign. There was, in fact, Russian interference in the campaign (read the Mueller report itself, not Barr's summary) and the investigation itself was completely justified.

    Even if there was no actual collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians it wasn't for lacking of trying by the campaign. The meeting at Trump Tower was predicated on the possibility that the Russians were going to provide opposition research on Hillary Clinton. The fact that nothing actually came of the meeting doesn't mean the Donald's campaign wasn't trying and then there was Trump asking the Russians for Hillary Clinton emails. Although Trump has since dismissed it as an attempt at humor, he was probably deadly serious. In Trump land, the end always justifies the means.
     
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  13. cocodrilo

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    Trump has an amazing capacity to think he can just make things disappear, whether it's "the Russian thing," Covid-19, or (by his threats as our "Law and Order President") demonstrations against police brutality.
     
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  14. gatorknights

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    That's what guys like him do. It's straight out of the instruction manual. They ignore truth and facts and to go straight to the Richard measuring contest. If their Richard errr bank account is bigger, they win. Ever seen that happen before Sargent?
     
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  15. Gator515151

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    LMAO once again it is Trumps fault.
     
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  16. gaterzfan

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    Well, quite a few have an extremely short attention span and general lack of depth when it comes to such matters. Especially when they don’t go the way of the left. The main stream media is a perfect example of this phenomenon.
     
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  17. gator10010

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    Liberals are so blinded by TDS they can't even acknowledge when they are wrong about Trump.
     
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  18. gogata125

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    "Hey Russia, if you are listening, can you find Hillary's missing emails?"
     
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  19. duchen

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    Except that there was that Trump Tower meeting, premised on the Russians offering aid where the topic turned to the then- existing sanctions. And Flynn’s contacts with Kislyak about sanctions. Except that Gucifer 2.0 was a Russian Agent and Roger Stone was regularly speaking with him to get emails, albeit apparently unknowingly. Except that Paul Manafort offered information on the campaign to Konstantinos Kiliminick to work off his debts to an oligarch and gave Kiliminick polling information. And then kept his mouth shut about it and lied after pleading. And on and on it went. Other than the repeated contacts with the Russians and the willingness to accept aid from the Russian government, there is no “there there” that justifies the investigation. Right wing world is truly separated from fact.
     
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  20. gogata125

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    Right wing world was never going to accept anything less than a videotaped meeting between Trump and Putin where they curse the United States together and then cut open their hands and do a blood handshake.
     
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