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The Distressing Normality of Jeffrey Epstein's Depravity

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by scrappygator, Jul 17, 2019.

  1. scrappygator

    scrappygator Moderator VIP Member

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    If money manager Jeffrey Epstein is guilty of the crimes of which he's been accused — crimes that include sex trafficking of underage girls for use in the satisfaction of his lusts — then he is obviously a world-class scumbag.

    But just how much company does he have in that class?

    We know it's far more than many of us would like to believe, and probably far more than those with less … extravagant appetites ordinarily assume. Leaving legalities aside to focus merely on morals, it almost certainly encompasses the current resident of the White House as well as his Democratic predecessor from just 20 years ago. For all we know, it may also include several of the names on the passenger manifests from Epstein's private plane, which was widely known by its lascivious nickname, the Lolita Express. (Just how arrogant was Epstein? As arrogant as a well-known coke dealer who names his yacht "Blowin' in the Wind.")

    The distressing normality of Jeffrey Epstein's depravity
     
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  2. Claygator

    Claygator GC Hall of Fame

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    He names his jet the "Lolita Express". Talk about arrogant.

    The descriptions of what JFK was doing is pretty disturbing, although hardly news at this point.
     
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  3. G8trGr8t

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    I had no idea JFK was that bad. More history still waiting to be written when that type of behaivor becomes more widely known
     
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  4. duchen

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    Big difference between sex with underage females and adultery with adults. I caution everyone not to rush into the rumor mill here. No matter who is the subject. People like Epstein have every reason to keep their depraved behavior secret even from friends and people who they are seen with.
     
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  5. sovietgator

    sovietgator Lighten up Jan Brady (Marsha, Marsha, Marsha!!)

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    Epstein was denied bail.
     
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  6. Claygator

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    JFK's behavior is pretty well documented, and is hardly rumor at this point. Whether he had romps with underage girls is another matter, but he did some pretty outrageous things while in office.

    But it was a different time, and the media wouldn't touch it.
     
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  7. madgator

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    You mean he was a democrat that they all loved, so they agreed that they wouldn't touch it
     
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  8. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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    Affairs by leaders of either party were pretty much ignored.
     
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  9. madgator

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    Yeah right...you mean like FDR, Kennedy, Clinton
     
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  10. Crusher

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    Eisenhower had an affair with his driver in England during WW2. Do you know if the media reported it at the time? If so, it didn't impact his chance at being elected President.
     
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  11. gatorpa

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    True, guys at the top were "protected" by the closed lipped code, ever watch "Mad Men".

    It still happens these days, but if you're a public figure you'll likely get hammered for it.
     
  12. nobbqsauce

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    Despite the headline it's not normal. What does seem to jump out isnt Republican vs Democrat as much as people with power. Extreme power.
    No one was going to tell the president no, or arrest them or even turn them in. Not even their wives...and yes I am convicted the wives k ew.
    Same Epstein. He thought he was untouchable... and he almostt was. (To sensitive a subject to interject the puns). It is always a person of extreme wealth and power. Whether a Saudi sheik, an American President, a European diplomat, or a movie producer. What I want to know is who all k ow and did nothing. Said nothing. Did Bush know? Obama? Senators? Judges? Who? Who sat quietly on the side and said nothing while they knew or at least suspected the girls were being used and abused.
    Fry them all. Makes my blood boil. Someone's daughter was used and thrown away by evil men and it's been going on for decades. Fry them.
     
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  13. fastsix

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    Hey, don't forget Jefferson had a long term affair with a slave he owned, and fathered 5 children with her. And he was Democratic-Republican. The liberal press probably found themselves in a bind with that one.
     
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  14. nobbqsauce

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    Legitimate question
    Jeffersons affair....is there any documentation of his relationship with her and the kids? Hiw was she treated, dis ahe remain in the slave quarters. How where the kida treated. I always wondered if he felt for her or just used her...like Epstein seems to have done.

    Not gotcha questions, I really am curious and dont know.
     
  15. fastsix

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    No idea, I knew her name and how to find it on Wikipedia. There are several people on the forum who seem to read a lot of non-fiction about American history, so maybe someone else knows.
     
  16. sovietgator

    sovietgator Lighten up Jan Brady (Marsha, Marsha, Marsha!!)

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  17. G8trGr8t

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    there were affairs and there were addictions. JFK had an addiction
     
  18. G8trGr8t

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    Likely within days, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit will release almost 2,000 pages of documents that could reveal sexual abuse by “numerous prominent American politicians, powerful business executives, foreign presidents, a well-known prime minister, and other world leaders,” according to the three-judge panel's ruling. The documents were filed during a civil defamation lawsuit brought by Epstein accuser Virginia Roberts Giuffre, a former Mar-a-Lago locker-room attendant, against Epstein’s former girlfriend and alleged madam, Ghislaine Maxwell. “Nobody who was around Epstein a lot is going to have an easy time now. It’s all going to come out,” said Giuffre’s lawyer David Boies. Another person involved with litigation against Epstein told me: “It’s going to be staggering, the amount of names. It’s going to be contagion numbers.”
     
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  19. sovietgator

    sovietgator Lighten up Jan Brady (Marsha, Marsha, Marsha!!)

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    Huh, Mar-A-Lago...
     
  20. studegator

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    This is disturbing---
    Another person involved with litigation against Epstein told me: “It’s going to be staggering, the amount of names. It’s going to be contagion numbers.”
     
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