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Tesla issues continue to mount

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by g8orbill, Jun 1, 2018.

  1. citygator

    citygator Premium Member

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    Me. No.

    Just an observation I’ve had in the Tesla threads. I didn’t say all. If you are a conservative who is rooting for Tesla to do well then just say so.
     
  2. GatorNavy

    GatorNavy Damn the torpedoes! Moderator Premium Member

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    Elon Musk is the man. I am a big fan of SpaceX. I do not know enough about Tesla, nor do I care one way or the other as to it's success. He does seem to be a dreamer, but if he can pull it off more power to him.
     
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  3. channingcrowderhungry

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    We subsidize oil companies as well. If we're playing the subsidy game we might as well focus on clean energy.
     
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  4. gator_fever

    gator_fever GC Hall of Fame

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    Oil companies aren't even in the same ballpark of how those subsidies keep businesses like Tesla afloat.
     
  5. channingcrowderhungry

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    And Tesla isn't even in the same ballpark when it comes to the gross total of the subsidies. And I didn't even bring up the subsidies GM, Ford, and other auto makers get, which are also all more than Tesla.

    I also don't understand the boogeyman that Tesla has become to the right. If our government wants to give out shit loads of subsidies, which clearly it does, I'm fine with them going to clean energy companies.
     
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  6. channingcrowderhungry

    channingcrowderhungry Premium Member

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    I'm also confused because in one thread you're applauding Trump for propping up the coal industry , but here you are saying we shouldn't prop up a clean energy company. I don't see the logic.
     
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  7. cjgator76

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    Don’t know about factory conditions but the Model 3 has been getting some surprisingly negative reviews.
     
  8. OklahomaGator

    OklahomaGator Jedi Administrator Moderator VIP Member

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    I'm not rooting against Tesla, I hope they are successful. I think what concerns some people is that the perception is they are receiving subsidies and benefits that the other car makers are not given.
     
  9. AgingGator

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    I'm not rooting against Tesla at all. I really like the concept, and the performance of their Model S is impressive. An electric car will not be practical until battery technology evolves to the point where the battery can be charged in a much, much shorter time than current battery/charging technology will allow.
     
  10. OklahomaGator

    OklahomaGator Jedi Administrator Moderator VIP Member

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    Quicker charge and longer range...
     
  11. BLING

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    Tesla S gets 300-400 miles, they have the range. Not quite what some of the more fuel efficient sedans offer, but not far off. Your average luxury sedan gets about 400 miles. Their next generation S (whenever that comes along) will probably bump it up, and perhaps even exceed something like a BMW 540i or a Lexus LS which get about 400 miles. The Tesla 3 has more of an issue, because some of the cars it competes against can get 600+ miles before refueling. It'll probably be awhile before the battery tech can get them 600 miles.

    Charging is the real issue. It simply wouldn't be practical on a long 1500 mile trip, even charging once is a PITA. For commuting and daily driving it would be fine since you can always recharge overnight.
     
  12. gator_fever

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    Hopefully he can get things corrected but no one will be sending a man to Mars and back in the next 15 years. You can take that to the bank.
     
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  13. g8orbill

    g8orbill Old Gator VIP Member

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    I will stick with my F150
     
  14. fastsix

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    I don't see anything in their line up like the F150. Which Tesla were you considering replacing it with?
     
  15. g8orbill

    g8orbill Old Gator VIP Member

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    You never say never but at 66 I highly doubt I would ever buy an electric car- I have actually been looking at an F250 4 door - but my 2011 F150 still has another 150K miles in her(200K now)
     
  16. gator_fever

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    I would consider it when they get better. Probably 10 years or so down the road at least for me.
     
  17. GatorNorth

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    That’s not going to help them build cars faster, the problem they’ve had, among others, is that the worlds most sophisticated car was still largely assembled by hand through the end of last year at least.

    Report Claims Tesla Has Been Assembling Model 3s by Hand
     
  18. GatorNorth

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    I’m intrigued by his tunnel under LA

    May be a good place for him to hide after his Tesla bonds crap out.
     
  19. gatorknights

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    Tesla just canned 9% of its work force. What, Musk isn't making enough money?
     
  20. exiledgator

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    Not with Tesla. Never been profitable in fifteen years. Thus layoffs. Mostly just flattening management and reducing redundancies.