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Stretching the defense

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by oneatatime, Oct 3, 2021.

  1. oneatatime

    oneatatime GC Hall of Fame

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    Spurrier made his mark with a run/pass ratio of 50/50, but it was normally skewed to a lot of long passes, stretching (and tiring) the defense in the first half, then running the ball down the opponents throats in the second half.

    I know Emory Jones has a strong arm and is capable of throwing a deep pass, but because we rarely do it, a disciplined defense like Kentucky can stay in their lanes,cheat toward the line of scrimmage and avoid giving up explosive plays.

    Our longest play from scrimmage was a Henderson reception of 22 yards, the only time we went over 20 yards.

    Even if Jones or Richardson miss the long throws at least keep the defense honest by trying them occasionally.
     
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  2. BLING

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    Last year we were slinging it around.

    Not nearly the same WR talent and an inaccurate QB limits the offense.

    Do we have a WR that can stretch the defense? That only works if your WR scares them to enough to adjust coverages.
     
  3. oneatatime

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    Copeland and Henderson are capable of doing that. I also thought Shorter had that potential, but we use him more like a tight end.
     
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  4. BLING

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    Maybe. I just haven’t noticed it yet.

    EJ isn’t terribly accurate either, so it’s tough to pin it on one thing. But it doesn’t seem to me like our WR are creating nearly the separation they did last year. Of course EJ has made a few wild throws (or the timing is messed up) so it’s hard to pin down. Really, it’s probably a combination of all these things (lack of playmakers, accuracy, timing).
     
  5. 62gator

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    It’s mostly about the QB. Trask was a fearless gunslinger, he could stand tall in the pocket make all the throws. EJ can’t, simple as that. So, the entire offense has been recalibrated to a run heavy horizontal passing attack. When the run gets stuffed, and you can’t dialup a push button passing game to compensate for that, you’re bleeped, see last night.
     
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  6. GornGator

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    As much as Coach Mullen talks about using players strengths, I was hoping for at least 1 or 2 jump ball attempts to either Shorter or Gamble when it was first and goal.... :(
    Oh well.......
    GO GATORS!!!!
     
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  7. tegator80

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    Different philosophies. Dan wants to be a system guy. Spurrier wanted results and would try anything to get them (and in plenty of instances fail to get them in that game). Spur would have either given the rock to Richardson in the second half (if not the second quarter) and he may have even tried Del Rio because of the others' limitations.

    Dan lost a chess match using spotty pieces last night. Spurrier would have known he was in a knife fight and tried to win it.
     
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  8. oneatatime

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    Until this game, Mullen has been universally lauded how he adapted to the pieces that he had, first with Trask and now with Jones.
     
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  9. tegator80

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    Knife fights can get tricky. As I said, Spurrier had plenty of brain farts. Just that Dan decided his acumen was going to work and it didn't.
     
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    We went four wide and double stacks several times last night. They left their DBs with no safety help on the majority of those and we never took a shot. I watched Copeland run free a few times and he never got a look.
     
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  11. antny1

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    Shorter in no way has been associated with stretching a defense. He is a beast and can be a great posession type receiver but we are just flat out neutered passing this year.
     
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    Hendo

    gotta stretch the D or run game gets shut down.
     
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  14. shane4three

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    Yep, he and Hendo are deep threats. We allow safeties to flat out play the run by not stretching the field.
     
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    Receivers were open and plays were there. EJ simply isn't one to go through his progression post snap. 95% of the time he is throwing to his pre snap read. Any "looking around" is mainly to try to move the DB involved, but he often doesn't look off long enough.

    Penalties were what stopped the offense last night. You cannot expect to overcome 3 and longs all night.
     
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  16. Matthanuf06

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    Yesterday he still adapted to Jones. The problem isn’t actually the game plan. It was damn near the same game plan of the previous games. The difference is Kentucky sold out to stop the run and had the horses to do so. And we had a ton of penalties.

    At that point Mullen had no plan B. But that’s not a schematic issue, Mullen knows EJ cannot process intermediate and deep routes.
     
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  17. GameTime1

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    Agree, but at least toss some sideline go routes?
     
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  18. bobbybaker86

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    came in here to say this!!!!!
     
  19. GornGator

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    Ummm, yah...... What's the problem? Talking about philosophies, right?
    GO GATORS!!!!
     
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  20. tommyvee

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    EJ not seeing the deep routes. Anticipation and throwing a receiver open aren’t his strengths right now.
     
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