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So .. What the Hell Happened to Mullen's Gators in 2021 ?

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by thatguy, Jan 17, 2022.

  1. thatguy

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    Florida football's 2021 campaign was historically bad
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    Adam Dubbin - GatorsWire

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    Fewest wins in SEC play since 1986

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    First road loss at Kentucky since 1986

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    First loss to an in-state team not Miami or FSU since 1938

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    Gave up most points ever in the first half against Samford

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    LSU running back breaks Herschel Walker's record

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    5 reasons why Florida football's 2021 campaign was historically bad


     
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  2. sierragator

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    peaked in the bama game and went off a freakin cliff after that. CBN will fix the mess Dan left behind.
     
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  3. thatguy

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    I'd guess most of us just want to turn the page .. but I still want to know WHY our team was that bad.
    It still just doesn't make sense to me.
    I know I'm beating a dead horse but
    Was it a "perfect storm" .. a confluence of factors .. was Dan Mullen asleep at the wheel .. WHAT ???

    I don't want to beat up Dan Mullen any more .. just trying to look at it dispassionately and analytically.


     
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  4. melrosemafia

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    I don't think the players believed in the coaches. The head Coach seemed asleep. The DC was terrible, players could see that.
    They are young men, they want and need leader's they believe in.
     
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  5. thatguy

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    I still don't understand why Dan Mullen couldn't fix it.
    Surely he saw everything we saw.
    Dan isn't stupid.


     
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  6. GornGator

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    Too stubborn to make changes. Glad its over. Ready for the new regime.
    GO GATORS!!!!
     
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  7. WC53

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    He had no relentless effort and no Gator Standard. Crazy eyes.

    Now, Frozen…. :)
     
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  8. MaceoP

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    It's really very simple, we incentivized him not to fix it. If someone's heart isn't into all the work required to keep even or move ahead, and they have a 12 million out.. (and they already have been making huge amounts of money for the past 15 years), then it's really easy to see the checkout.
     
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  9. 4everaGator

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    Vanderbilt was the turning point in my opinion. The coaches started losing the team during that week. There was still effort evident in the Kentucky game plus the cats finished 10-3. But Vandy outplayed us for the entire 1st half, although they never scored and lost by 42 points to none, the Gators (especially the defense) started checking out. Then at LSU we witnessed the complete collapse of our D. The only wins after Vandy were against Samford and FSU, 2 vastly inferior teams.
     
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  10. tigator2019

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    In my head--- UF
    I don’t believe he ‘lost the team’ - offense scores like crazy in one game, defense holds some in another.

    Offense has no juice 1 game, defense abysmal in another.


    In a locker room athletes want to win no matter what and no matter who the coach is.


    they were poorly coached without cohesive schemes. lack of motivation was on display at mizzou.
     
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  11. duggers_dad

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    I don’t think we’ve had a clean game, offense and defense on same page, since Michigan ‘19.
     
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  12. ofmgator

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    DM lost the team early in the season because of some of the dumb things he did and he never took any responsibility. He had opportunities to win games (UK) but chose to be very conservative. Played Jones way too much and kept an inadequate defensive coach out of loyalty to the coach but not the team. Players could see all of this and they did not,could not, follow Mullen anymore.
     
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  13. thatguy

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    I appreciate the thoughts of those who care to share in this thread.

    I'm using the article as a starting point of factual information.
    No one can argue with those facts and events.
    Those points set the stage.
    Now .. IF you care to .. let's examine the "whys and wherefores" and the "what the hell happened to my team?"
    I get the "dead horse" perspective and the "let's turn the page with Billy Napier" positive feelings.
    I'm down with everybody on those.
    But I'm analytical and philosophical by nature.
    Just want to examine and understand the team dynamics that played out during the 2021 season.
    I love the game of college football and I love and support my team.
    I'm confident in Billy Napier and believe we will never go down last year's dark path again.

    I think Mullen's lack of support, structure, organization, communication and feedback played a huge role in our team's disintegration.


     
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  14. Halo05

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    I think Mullen himself checked out after the SEC championship loss to Alabama. When he basically quit on the bowl game against Oklahoma, and then even admitted as much when he said "The SECCG was the 2020 team's last game." The team adopted his mentality. No competitor should ever have that woe is me, pity on me mentality.

    I think the team found new hope with the new season, but when the ball didn't bounce their way a few times, they crumbled.

    The Oklahoma game was the first game where I saw the team quit under Mullen - prior to that they competed and played hard every game. After that, they quit in multiple games.
     
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  15. Montanagator

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    This could go full circle. Lack of recruits to fill vacancies, failure to teach players how to tackle, run routes every time, lack of discipline, players who didn't think they could win, the list goes on but it's in the past and we're hoping for a better future. Go Gators!
     
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  16. thatguy

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    Since Florida’s last national title in 2008:
    • One top 5 finish
    • 3 losing seasons
    • Zero SEC Championships
    • Five different Head Coaches
    • 5-7 vs FSU
    • 6-7 vs UGA
    • 4-9 vs LSU
    • 0-8 vs Alabama
    Rk Year Conf W L T Pct W L T Pct SRS SOS AP Pre AP High AP Post Coach(es) Bowl Notes
    2021 SEC 6 7 .462 2 6 0 .250 4.37 2.14 13 10 Dan Mullen (5-6), Greg Knox (1-0) Union Home Mortgage Gasparilla Bowl-L
    2020 SEC 8 4 0 .667 8 3 0 .727 16.85 8.02 8 3 13 Dan Mullen (8-4) Cotton Bowl-L
    2019 SEC 11 2 0 .846 6 2 0 .750 15.22 2.91 8 6 6 Dan Mullen (11-2) Orange Bowl-W
    2018 SEC 10 3 0 .769 5 3 0 .625 13.66 4.04 7 7 Dan Mullen (10-3) Peach Bowl-W
    2017 SEC 4 7 0 .364 3 5 0 .375 0.83 5.37 17 17 Jim McElwain (3-4), Randy Shannon (1-3)
    2016 SEC 9 4 0 .692 6 2 0 .750 10.98 4.75 25 10 14 Jim McElwain (9-4) Outback Bowl-W
    2015 SEC 10 4 0 .714 7 1 0 .875 9.65 4.94 8 25 Jim McElwain (10-4) Citrus Bowl-L
    2014 SEC 7 5 0 .583 4 4 0 .500 8.12 4.29 Will Muschamp (6-5), D.J. Durkin (1-0) Birmingham Bowl-W
    2013 SEC 4 8 0 .333 3 5 0 .375 4.67 7.17 10 10 Will Muschamp (4-8)
    2012 SEC 11 2 0 .846 7 1 0 .875 17.35 6.82 23 3 9 Will Muschamp (11-2) Sugar Bowl-L
    2011 SEC 7 6 0 .538 3 5 0 .375 6.00 3.61 22 12 Will Muschamp (7-6) Gator Bowl-W
    2010 SEC 8 5 0 .615 4 4 0 .500 9.30 4.07 4 4 Urban Meyer (8-5) Outback Bowl-W
    2009 SEC 13 1 0 .929 8 0 0 1.000 21.15 5.43 1 1 3 Urban Meyer (13-1) Sugar Bowl-W
    2008 SEC 13 1 0 .929 7 1 0 .875 25.37 5.59 5 1 1 Urban Meyer (13-1) BCS Championship-W
    2007 SEC 9 4 0 .692 5 3 0 .625 18.06 6.83 6 3 13 Urban Meyer (9-4) Capital One Bowl-L
    2006 SEC 13 1 0 .929 7 1 0 .875 19.66 6.95 7 1 1 Urban Meyer (13-1) BCS Championship-W


     
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  17. Mikog8tor

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    IMO he wanted out. Maybe he really wanted that NFL gig (speculating) and didn't get it and it just crushed him so he had nothing left to put in to the Gators. Cash that big termination check and take a little break and regroup. All speculation because we just don't know. Over time information might come out and it'll be interesting to see what he does going forward. I'm more focused on the guy who does want to be here and is willing to put in the effort to catch us up to the elite programs. Out with the old and in with the new!
     
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  18. GatorTheo

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    Here's my theory:

    When the admin started ramping up the pressure to fire Grantham, Mullen just said eff it.
     
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  19. LAGatorDoc

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    I think it was his CEO skills that were lacking. I said when he did not get rid of Grantham last year that he knows he won’t make it here and he is trying to buy himself as long as possible getting an exorbitant salary.

    He got away with firing position coaches. Then, Grantham would be the scape goat for this year which would buy him another year. But when “he” (more likely Stricklin) fired Grantham mid year, and he put a green Robinson to be the DC (who has never called a game ever), we saw the defense fall apart and collapse which led to two additional losses. So basically, he knew he was out and stopped caring at that point.
     
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  20. 92gator

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    I don't think the results shed much light on why it happened. The OP/article tease up information on why (the reasons) the 21 Gators sucked, while only providing proof (the results), that they did.

    If there were a simple solution, I imagine it would have been pursued.

    Alas, the solution(s) proved elusive, and radical coach-ectomy was deemed in order. Yet again.

    Every now and then, you gotta' to hit the reset button, and reboot your system--and after so many reboots prove fruitless....maybe time to update the operating system altogether.

    I believe CBN represents a complete overhaul of the system, the likes of which we have not seen since Spurrier took the helm in '90 (noting that Urbs, a mercenary from the get, largely rode Zook's (recruiting) coattails).

    jmho/fwiw.
     
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