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Since this was rated off topic in another thread let's give the NYT it's own thread.

Discussion in 'GatorNana's Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Gator515151, Feb 21, 2020.

  1. PITBOSS

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    blood lust. No surprise.
     
  2. LouisvilleGator

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    Gee, unsurprisingly, several of you are having trouble with the distinction between high level U.S. government officials negotiating an exit with the Taliban and running Taliban propaganda in our newspapers. The two can be mutually exclusive. Most sane people recognize that. We negotiated with the north Vietnamese and Japanese as well. Perhaps we could have ended the war in Europe sooner if we had just let Joseph Goebbels pen an op-ed in the NYT, lol. You guys are brilliant. What were we thinking!?!?
     
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    Would you like a law restricting what the press can run?
     
  4. wgbgator

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    Its true, we are having a problem with your idiosyncratic distinctions.
     
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  5. BLING

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    Propaganda. Now that's a good one. Check any Fox News evening programming lately? Don't worry, their audiences are kept "safe" from such op-ed pieces.
     
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  6. LouisvilleGator

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    Never said anything about passing a law. Nobody is saying the NYT shouldn't have the right to do what they did. There's a lot of things I have a right to do that I would never do for the sake of common sense or decency. There was a thread here about a month ago about armed, masked militia bringing AR-15's into the Kentucky state capitol. Technically, they were doing nothing wrong legally. But that didn't stop several of you from whining about it. The difference between that episode and the NYT/Taliban is the armed militia at the state capitol meant no harm. The Taliban clearly do mean harm. They harbored OBL and have killed thousands of American soldiers. I know that stuff's not a big deal to some of you, but people like myself loathe the Taliban for their atrocities. Common decency... it seems lost on several of you, sadly.
     
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    These are the same clowns that had the glowing write-up on that Iranian terrorist Trump killed.
     
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    So if we are in agreement either the NYT nore the armed Kentucky men broke any laws, so be it. I loathe the Taliban but also am interesting in reading their point of view.
     
  9. mutz87

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    Seems another right wing demonstration of cognitive dissonance.
     
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    The heavily armed/masked militia meant no harm. LMAO. Do you even believe the nonsense you write?

    The Taliban clearly meant harm, their op-ed is nonsense in terms of the "we didn't choose this war" excuses. They chose the war by harboring OBL. But again, the Trump administration is negotiating with the Taliban (or maybe they're not, who even knows with this admin at this point). But the discussion of negotiations is all public knowledge, and if you are negotiating some of that may get done through the press if the parties want to go that way.

    The press's job isn't to shield you from the Taliban's words, and certainly not in this context (it would be different if they were calling for violence or hate or some other ideological nonsense through their op-Ed, but they aren’t). The Press has no editorial role in this, other than to publish it, and there is no good reason to NOT publish something like that which has to do with ending the war. The administration can publicly respond to the Taliban if they want with their own editorial, or not, doesn't really matter because ultimately the Taliban cannot win a PR war through the New York Times, not even against the worst and most corrupt administration in the history of the United States.
     
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    more like voluntary ignorance
     
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    I'm for anyone who wants to have a voice to at least be able to be heard. Whether or not we choose to listen is a different story.
     
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    You weren't.
     
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    Almost like they expect to have freedom of the press or something. I think our chief law enforcement officer needs to handle this too
     
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    Some of it, I'm afraid, is.
     
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    Or intentional as well.
     
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    You'll have to excuse some of us for being patriotic and not giving a damn about what the Taliban wants.
     
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    So your view then is that we should negotiate but the American public shouldn't be privy to the nature of those negotiations including what the other side might want, and we shouldn't have the ability to independently evaluate their truthfulness?
     
  20. wgbgator

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    Don't read the article then. Its a free country. This attitude is totally compatible with the NYT printing an op-ed you'd rather they didn't.