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Sign 25 (with reaches) or Undersign

Discussion in 'Awesome Recruiting' started by interrygator73, Feb 7, 2018.

  1. interrygator73

    interrygator73 Junior

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    Some good brief discussion on other threads on the issue of trying to sign 25 with a bit of 2* & 3*, or keep slots open for higher ranked players next year. This issue deserves its own thread. There seem to be decent arguments on both sides with the new 25 max rule with no counting back.

    What say you Gator faithful? (knowledgeable rival posters minus trolls welcome ;))
     
  2. garettk

    garettk GC Hall of Fame

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    I would reach on one with qualifying issues and hope to get him in. But if they are unlikely to contribute during their time at UF, I’d save the spot.
     
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  3. Crusher

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    Are we sure that this is the new rule? According to this http://www.gatorcountry.com/swampgas/threads/the-yearly-limit-question-settled.389251/ it may not be the case.

    Its pretty simple however, IMO:
    • Can count back previous year unused LOI's - save a few for next year if you can't get who you want
    • Can't count back previous year unused LOI's - use 25 every year and hope we grab an underrated kid or two who becomes a star.
     
  4. ETGator1

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    I started a thread with the premise that there is no hard 25 limit. Too many programs have signed over 25 for the count back rule to not still be in existence. Based on same, there is no way I'd be making reaches for shaky 2 and 3 star players.
     
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  5. interrygator73

    interrygator73 Junior

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    Nope not sure Crusher. Liked your arguments buried in the LOI thread.

    Hope we don't have more than 3-4 to count back , if we can, as we need decent bodies now.
     
  6. 18walfu

    18walfu Best Fan In America VIP Member

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    Undersign.
     
  7. UFreak

    UFreak Premium Member Trusted GC Insider

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    Undersign, especially in the transfer era. By the end of spring, there may be some good players looking for new homes.
     
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  8. Claygator

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    And sit out a year.

    As for reaches, I don't know what Mullen and company have on the table. Shannon and Seider seemed to have been better connected in south florida to identify under the radar talent. I'm not sure Mullen has had the chance to make those connections.
     
  9. UFreak

    UFreak Premium Member Trusted GC Insider

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    Yup, and sit out a year. But if you think about it, if you get a reach that reach will likely not play in his first year and likely redshirt by virtue of being a reach.

    It's the smart long-term play.
     
  10. theghost

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    Unfortunately, we're not in a position to sign 25 so this question is hypothetical. I'm not sure about taking a "reach"....but I'm all in favor of taking Plan B's, especially if the staff has done their homework (and when I say "staff", I'm talking about the recruiting department - they should have a top 5 (or whatever) - and if they miss on the top 2 or 3....I see no problem offering the #4 or 5 guy on the list, if they think that kid is SEC caliber). But to "reach" on an FAU type kid? Nope, I'll hold the spot for the next cycle.
     
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  11. themistocles

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    Undersign.

    Skip the Reaches.
     
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  12. tegator80

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    We can sign O-linemen who have a decent frame but aren't there yet. And we can sign slower safeties who can put on weight and become OLBers. Otherwise we need to strategize for the next year or two.
     
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  13. g0ggles

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    Wouldn't be upset if the staff took 1 or 2 "projects".
     
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  14. Kerrdog

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    jeez, I though we had this all resolved. Is it 25 or 26? who counts back if anyone? what a cluster. I am going to ask Mullen to explain the numbers on his spring tour
     
  15. Crusher

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    Would you "reach" on a UCF type kid, however?
     
  16. robertgator

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    we're ALWAYS below the 85 limit. I'd find 3 stars with smarts and heart and sign them up.
     
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  17. interrygator73

    interrygator73 Junior

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    Coach said in the presser that we would be below 25, but that was "part of the plan." NO ??? follow-ups. Gwad, I shoulda been a journalist.
     
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  18. themistocles

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    Yes, at the presser, Mullen made it infinitely clear that he was not going to make the mistakes that Zook constantly did and Meyer, the first year, of recruiting kids who can't compete in the SEC to fill Roster Spots.
     
  19. Kerrdog

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    Did he say compete or fit their system?
     
  20. theghost

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    Honestly, it depends. I'd put UCF and USF above FAU and FIU in the talent they get (they usually have higher ranked recruiting classes). But this really depends on if the kid was scouting by our recruiting department. If he was on our board, but lower ranked, then sure....take a look and if he's worth an offer, go ahead. But this should be minimized, maybe 1 per class. Again, I think there's a difference in a Plan B and a "reach". Andrew Mike was a reach....Griffin McDowell was a Plan B.