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Should only division games count when determining division champ?

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by GatorKP, Oct 14, 2019.

  1. KronoGator

    KronoGator GC Hall of Fame

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    Spurrier came up with this one because it would have benefited his team, if things had been different he would have been totally against the idea.

    Just win the games, don't try and scheme into the title game.
     
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  2. vaxcardinal

    vaxcardinal GC Hall of Fame

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    Just wondering had we lost to South Carolina and Georgia lost to LSU, would this thread exist?
     
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  3. og8trz

    og8trz VIP Member

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    But Birmingham is a “NEUTRAL” site!
     
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  4. reaves2alvarez

    reaves2alvarez Senior

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    No go to 9 games in the league and that way everybody rotates through in a 4 year stretch and old rivalries like Aub/Fla are not lost.

    “Wes Chandler was Percy Harvin before Percy Harvin was born.”
     
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  5. reaves2alvarez

    reaves2alvarez Senior

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    NYC for the pub:D and the loss of favoritism towards Bama. And why is the SECÇ tourney in Hoover for baseball. Jeez

    “Wes Chandler was Percy Harvin before Percy Harvin was born.”
     
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  6. GatorKP

    GatorKP All American

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    You could then use overall conference record to break any tiebreakers.
     
  7. oragator1

    oragator1 Premium Member

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    That stuff rotates over time, spurrier went 11-1 against lsu. Tennessee is owned by bama right now. Arkansas was fairly formidable in the neck brace years.
    Missouri will usually have an easier road than us, but if Missouri is our biggest worry, we have bigger problems.
     
  8. GatorKP

    GatorKP All American

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    Sure. Just trying to be fair. Look at UT for example. They play Bama every year. So they're at a disadvantage to start. Nobody in the East beats Bama much. And we get LSU, who we may beat 1/2 the time. Nobody in the East would fair better. But look at Mizzou. Aren't they at a major advantage by getting Arkansas? I would argue they are.

    I think it's an idea the SEC should at least think about.
     
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  9. WhattaGator1

    WhattaGator1 Moderator VIP Member "Cook Shack Chef"

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    That has a big thing to do with the SEC headquarters IN Bama...

    Geez...the replay official is where??
    Bama !
    Everything SEC is favored to???...
    Bama!

    It's no wonder why Florida is the "redheaded stepchild" of the SEC, and it's no wonder why so many officiating calls go against the Gators...that's happened for years.

    Just sayin'
     
  10. antny

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    Yeah. Not sure why the idea of playing the same teams to win your respective division is such a crazy concept. If you want to split a league up and require division winners why should it matter who you lost to in another division?
     
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  11. KronoGator

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    There are only 3 years out of 26 that this would have changed who went, at least from the east

    1992, Tennessee (4-1) would have gone to the title game instead with the win over UF (4-1) NEGATIVE
    2002, UF (4-1) goes with the head to head win over Georgia (4-1) POSITIVE
    2011, USCe goes instead of Georgia

    So this wouldn't have really helped the Gators at all, we'd lose appearing in the 1st SEC title game under Spurrier and gain one appearance under Zook.

    Not worth it.
     
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  12. antny

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    While I agree with this even bama has down years. Doesn't change the veracity of the argument that a division should be decided on by games against division opponents. Why even have divisions if schedules will be arbitrary?
     
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  13. gatorfan96

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    Or head to head record.
     
  14. GatorKP

    GatorKP All American

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    Yeah. I was just referring to if there was a 3 way tie where each team was 1-1 against the other and they had the same division record. Then, one of the tie breakers could be overall conference record.
     
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  15. 95Gator

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    Interesting theory but the west teams stand just a chance of being bad as easy teams do of being good. A great team wants to play the better teams, ask UCF.
     
  16. rmonteag

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    No
     
  17. KyleK

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    This. If divisions were eliminated, each team in the SEC would get to play each other more often. As it is now, teams in your other division only play each other every 7 years or so, with the exception of your permanent opponent. For example, we played Mizzou in 2016 and won't play them again until 2023. How is that a division opponent?

    Y'all are doing ok...we (LSU) have been stuck playing Alabama every year during their Saban years.
     
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  18. KyleK

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    This is true. Just as Alabama has been dominant during the Saban years, they were not good at all during the Stalling years. Everything is cyclical.
     
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  19. g8rnc

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    Bring the SEC to 16 teams total and create 4 divisions of 4 teams. Each year everyone in your division plays the each other in the division plus each team in 2 of the 3 other divisions. 1 division is all home games and one is all away games and this is the same for every team in the division. That is 11 games with 1 out of conference game left over for the traditional out of conference rivalries.
     
  20. DevilsCastle

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    You guys are probably thinking of 2003 when we beat UGA and LSU and they played in the SECCG.