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Shootings and 49 Killed in New Zealand.

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by RayGator, Mar 15, 2019.

  1. RayGator

    RayGator Moderator VIP Member

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    FNC reporting there has been shootings in two different mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand. So far 49 have been killed. Four, three men and one woman, have been arrested.
     
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  2. orangeblue_coop

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    Apparently the shooters recorded themselves slaughtering their victims during the massacre. I have no intention of watching it. RIP to the victims of this act of terrorism.
     
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  3. Gatorrick22

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    This is just sad to see... "Can't we all just get along."
     
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  4. LimeyGator

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    Absolutely awful loss of life. I desperately wish there was a cure for racial/religious intolerance.
     
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  5. mutz87

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    Absolutely horrific. Not just shootings, it was a slaughter and it was terrorism, live-streamed.
     
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  6. BigCypressGator1981

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    Radical Christian Terror definitely seems on the upswing these days.
     
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  7. LimeyGator

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    People who commit these crimes in the name of any religion are conning themselves. I think they do a great injustice to the millions of people practising their faiths peacefully across the world.

    It's about time we called all of them for what they are - murderers, pure and simple.
     
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  8. citygator

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    Tragic. Very sad.

    BTW I read no death penalty is in place in New Zealand.
     
  9. BigCypressGator1981

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    I totally agree. My comment was aimed at all the conservatives on here (or who used to be before they got too upset and left) who repeatedly condemned all of Islam because of radical Islamic terrorists.

    Those who went on and on about how Obama refused to say “radical Islamic terror” meanwhile I’m sure they’d balk at this atrocity being labeled “radical Christian terror.”

    RELIGION OF PEACE STRIKES AGAIN
     
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  10. danmann65

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    There is: Everybody just needs to give up their imaginary friends. It won't cure every problem in the world but it would be a nice start.
     
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  11. surfn1080

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    Is there somewhere showing these disgusting humans are Christians or did it in the name of any form of religion?

    All I am seeing is they did it due to their hate for immigration
     
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  12. BigCypressGator1981

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    There is apparently an 87 page manifesto filled with anti immigration and anti Muslim rhetoric.

    I’ll bet dollars to donuts that these terrorists are self described Christians.

    But don’t worry. I’m not the kind of moron that throws billions of people out with the bath water due to the actions of a few.
     
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  13. BigCypressGator1981

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    I’m not sure that’s the solution. I think religion provides meaning for billions of people’s lives without which there is no telling how they would behave.
     
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  14. duchen

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    Doesn’t matter what religion these masse murderers are. We will one day learn what is in the manifest or and what their motivation was. No sense in speculating. I know of no sect of Christianity that issues rulings that this kind of killing is OK, so the comparison to a killing justified by an extremist cleric’s fatwah is not the same. Friday is the Muslim day of worship, so the mosques would have had a lot of people on them. Just terrible news to wake up to.
     
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  15. danmann65

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    Religion allows for people to be controlled. Good people are generally good. Bad people are generally bad. But it takes religion to make good people do bad things.
     
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  16. duchen

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    The song the gunmen picked with its reference to “hellfire” does not bespeak Christianity.
     
  17. duchen

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    Too generalized. I would suspect more often that the absence of religion contributes to evil bc people do not have a value center.
     
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  18. rivergator

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    early reports indicate white supremacy, no mention of Christianity ..
     
  19. BigCypressGator1981

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    In the vacuum created by the absence of the classic spiritual religions some other common belief system typically rises in their place - whether it be socialism, capitalism, humanism or communism etc. Its clear that shared myths (money, governments, businesses or any of the aforementioned "religions") are what make human beings capable of organizing in such large numbers. None of them are perfect.
     
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  20. VAg8r1

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    Apparently the shooter was a fan of our POTUS.
    New Zealand mosques' attack suspect praised Trump in manifesto
     
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