It seems year in and year out ESPN has an uncanny need to make someone or some 2 or 3 their focal point(s) for the entire CWS broadcast instead of the games/competition of the final 8— That says quite frankly there is a need to upgrade their teams of broadcasters.
I hate the Noles, but by all accounts Martin is a good guy. Glad they lost, but not going to attack him personally. And by the way, and yes I am serious when I say this, we owe Miami a huge debt here. In 1999, FSU made the championship game, but Miami beat them 6-5 for the title. Not only would FSU have had one nearly two decades before us, they would have had the baseball and football titles in the same year, which we never would have heard the end of (at least til 2006).
Actually he has the appearance of being a good guy— He is 100% a Martin guy....I’ll leave it at that....
Coulda woulda shoulda. Thanks for the solid, Canes. Now back to hating the Holes. Trust Horns on his assessment of Eleven. All bout his darn ego.
You probably have a better perspective than any of us. I've always likened him to Bowden....that folksy nice guy from a public persona standpoint, but not so sweet behind the veneer. Certainly the fact that they are both FSU guys sways me immediately to look at the negative, but think both were a little more image than reality. Not saying they were bad guys, just the whole thing got blown out of proportion over the years. And both were never afraid to do the dirty little coaching things that helped them win and/or look good.
I used to remember hearing F$U fans complain about him burning up starting pitcher's arms in games just to try and get the win - Meanwhile Sully has always been about the safety and hopeful future pitching career of the player - meticulously keeping track of pitch counts and not having his boys pitch too long.
Since we're obviously not talking about championships, I'm guessing that it is having more wins against your rival. Go GATORS! ,WESGATORS
I would be more pissed at Miami than FSU. Miami has knocked us out of the ncaa Tournament many more times than FSU has if memory serves me correctly. I just don’t get all this disdain for Martin and FSU. Now football is another story. I ‘m with you all there.
It is coveted by gators to beat Martin and FSU because he got FSU to that high level. Have to tip the cap to him. All those appearances in Omaha - it is stuff of legend.** He built a storied program. So when the gators beat - and sorta dominate - FSU under Sully: just shows how great we have it with Sully! **Unfortunately, for FSU*, they only have that one title in ‘08.
It is the sworn duty of every true Gator fan to hate the Holes with every fiber of his/her being, and to make life as miserable as possible for all Hole fans.
Stay classy folks. I would know. At least beginning in 1986 through present. Stay classy. No sense in making Gator Nation look worse.
Can't argue that the classy road is the way to go. And wouldn't argue that you "would know". But there are a lot of people that "would know" things too, and some of those things are not the positive narrative frequently distributed. I guess some of that is inevitable given the length of his career, but some is well earned disdain.
I don't think it's necessarily fair to suggest that a guy who kept his team out of reckless season ending dogpiles for 40 years may have been lax about wear and tear on his players.