Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by 62gator, Jan 14, 2021.
I'm just sayin'...
ha ha. Hilarious. Sounds like ...errr...some fans I know.
Funny, though it would have been a good hire at the time. Landing Saban was luck. They could have just easily got a Will Muschamp or a Lane Kiffin. RRod may have done a decent job there, too; though nothing like Saban. He probably with have been a Gus Malzahn. Moderately successful and fired after 8-9 years.
Funny. It's hard to say what kind of success RichRod would have had at Alabama. Saban wins by getting the top recruiting classes year after year, and hiring failed head coaches for top coordinator positions. Sarkisian always had a very good offensive mind, and had good offenses wherever he went. Give him Alabama talent, and a chance to re-invent himself at Alabama, and it's a great recipe for success.
RichRod's has his own system, and despite what the guy in the video says, it works. RR took over a 3-9 Arizona team that ranked in the bottom in the PAC in many offensive categories, and took Arizona to 5 bowl games in 6 years, and ranked either #1 or #2 in rushing offense every year. RR left Arizona with a .56 winning percentage, and wasn't fired because his teams weren't performing on the field, but rather because RR ran the football office like Dom Draper. Not a good look in the "me too" era.
Too bad, too, because Sumlin came in after RR and ruined Khalil Tate. Sumlin went 5-7 his first year, with a bad loss to start against an average BYU team, and even worse loss to ASu to end the season. With RR, Arizona likely wins both games, and finished at least 7-5, and goes bowling again.
RR at Alabama? May have worked. May not have, especially since RR recruits specifically for his style, which includes smaller, quicker receivers. And RR tends to neglect the defensive side of the ball. But make no mistake. Had RR been able to be a 21st Century man, he'd still be employed in Tucson.
I disagree with you somewhat. Most of the head coaches Saban hires are not "failed." Getting fired as a HC doesn't make you a failure, except in the minds of judgemental sports fans. And a minority of his full time assistants have been former head coaches.
Also, no one knows for sure how Saban wins. Getting the best players is part of it. Saban is an amazing judge of talent. But there is an entire administrative dimension to coaching football the average fan pays no attention to: operations, player development, media, recruiting (coordinating). The top coaches are as cognizant of the administrative side as they are the coaching side--working 18-20 hours a day in some cases. Saban runs a well oiled machine, that no one can duplicate.
Of course it can’t be that simple considering he won an SEC championship and Sugar Bowl his 2nd season at LSU (after they’d gone 4-7 and 3-8 the last two seasons under Gerry DiNardo) mostly with players he didn’t recruit. Bama went undefeated in the regular season his 2nd year (with only 2 starters he recruited), then went undefeated and won a natty his 3rd. His assistants were all no-names at the time.
You don't get to be coach at Alabama without earning your stripes. Saban certainly did at Michigan State and LSU. But it is that easy now at Alabama for Saban. Gets whatever player he wants, and former fired head coaches flock to Tuscaloosa to be the next Saban reclamation project. And most of these coaches were successful coordinators before losing their head coaching job.
The act of getting fired is a failure, unless you were trying to get fired.
This applies to every job.
The event of getting fired could be viewed as a failure. I don't think it renders that coach a failure or "failed." Especially in coaching where it's very possible to be a do decent job under the circumstances and still get fired.
So the episode is all about kicking a guy when he's down? This was the weakest 'short in my mind.
Prior to Saban, Alabama's standards were no higher than any other top 15 school. Mile Riley from Oregon State turned them down. And you are confusing successful with easy. Alabama got embrassed in the 2018 title game by Clemson and by Auburn in 2019. It took a massive effort to get back to the top spot. The BS Saban deals with on a daily basis: non-stop academic, legal, financial, and psychiatric problems with his players; fights between coaches; possible NCAA violations; staff who aren't hacking it, problems non-stop. He has qualified people to handle these issues, but the buck stops with him. Saban doesn't have at least 2x as many rings as any other coach in the last 20 years only because of his players.
Not their best work but HK makes it worth watching.
Gotta hand it to Saban. He's definitely got a plan for winning. The one thing about his players is that they are team players. They are the most focused group I've watched.
Fansville: Alabama championship shirt
I disagree. Most of Saban's players wouldn't even know how to throw a shoe. Saban's players are just focused on all the wrong things, like winning. We have the best shoe thrower in college football.
Help me here
, what and who is the Heather Kerkins thing about. I’m missing something obvious aren’t I
Was this real or a joke? I truly can’t tell. It looked like a poorly acted skit.
Satire, of course. I thought it was pretty funny. The joke is on delusional fans, which every school has.