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SCOTUS says its alright to drop registered voters off rolls if they don't vote for 2 years...

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by gator_fever, Jun 11, 2018.

  1. gator_fever

    gator_fever GC Hall of Fame

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    Supreme Court: Ohio can drop inactive voters from registration rolls

    June 11 (UPI) -- In a move that could impact future elections, the U.S. Supreme Court said Monday the state of Ohio can continue its controversial practice of purging names from its voter rolls.

    In a 5-4 vote, the court said the practice, called "Supplemental Process," doesn't violate the National Voter Registration Act, which aims to prevent states from removing names from voter rolls if they don't actually vote.

    Six other states -- Georgia, Montana, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania and West Virginia -- also purge inactive voters' names, but Ohio's is known as the most extreme.

    Election officials in the state send address confirmation notices to voters who have not cast ballots for at least two years. If a voter responds, their information is updated and they remain on the list. If they don't, their name is removed.
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    Not sure about the legal arguments here but Ohio having that strict 2 year rule to stay active in the voter rolls or requiring a response to stay on the rolls would cut down on some crooked voting practices by the leftists.

    2 years is kind of extreme but I think a 5 year limit would be a good place to start with maybe a requirement for the response request to be sent to the most recent address in the DMV file also if it differs from the one listed in their voter registration records.

    This may come in handy for Pennsylvania with Trump but not sure what their rules actually are.
     
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  2. GatorNavy

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    I read where they are removed from the voter roll if they fail to return the mailer AND fail to vote in the following four years.
     
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  3. BLING

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    That's rather shameful IMO. 2 years is ridiculous since alot of people don't vote in mid-term elections - actually very few people DO vote in mid-term elections - the last turnout number was 36.9% in 2014. Even 5 years seems rather low, you can make a case for 10 years or something along those lines. If a person hasn't voted in 10 years they are probably either not participating or deceased or whatever.
     
  4. rivergator

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    what is dropping them after two years supposed to accomplish, other than making sure fewer people can vote?
     
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  5. Bushmaster

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    Sotomayer playing the race card again. Predictable.

    I personally wouldn't do 2 years, but I remember when driver licenses were renewed every four years. If you didn't renew, it expired. Seems here all you have to do is fill out the form and send it back. Shouldn't be a problem if you want to vote.
     
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  6. gator_fever

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    Articles about cases leading to this ruling says its just 2 years like this article.. I wonder how the Democrats are going to make sure they keep all the homeless registered. Maybe have their address listed at certain shelters where they can make sure they get them the response letter. :D
     
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  7. gatorpika

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    It's not 2 years, it's 4 years with a notice after 2 years. So you don't vote in an election, two years later you get a notice. If you have not voted in that next 2 year election or the subsequent one, you get purged. So you don't vote in 3 successive elections or any interim off cycle ones.

    Supreme Court rules in favor of Ohio 'voter purge'
     
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  8. gator_fever

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    I would have to see the numbers but I think just over the 4 year mark would be a good number. Not really sure how often an inactive voter just suddenly votes for a Democrat after many years then a check shows the person that voted absentee had actually been deceased for years. I know in Nevada they caught people voting for the Democrat using their address with absentee ballots and the family members had been dead for years.
     
  9. gator_fever

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    So its effectively just over 4 years looking at that?
     
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  10. GatorNorth

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    While I don't disagree as to the seemingly (lack of) difficulty to comply with the law (filling out and returning a card), let's not forget that while obtaining a drivers license is a privilege, voting is a right.
     
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  11. Gator515151

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    I just wish they would drop the dead voters off the rolls. They seem to be heavily Democrat.
     
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  12. Bushmaster

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    The State can not deny you a license to drive unless there is just cause. Same with voting. Voting is actually more restrictive when you factor in 16 is the age to drive, 18 to vote, felons can drive but they can't vote, etc.
     
  13. Bushmaster

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    As long as send the notice back though, you are still registered and not purged.
     
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  14. GatorNorth

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    Voting doesn't require a proficiency test and drivers licenses aren't referenced in 4 or 5 amendments to the Constitution. They are purely a matter of state law.
     
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  15. tilly

    tilly Superhero Moderator with bulletproof posts! Moderator VIP Member

    Hey SCOTUS has spoken. It is the law, no more to see now.
    (Isn't that what some on the left say about social issues like abortion.) ;)
     
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  16. Bushmaster

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    The premise is the same. Argue with someone else about it. If we truly treated voting as a right like the first and fourth amendments, we wouldn't have to REGISTER to vote to begin with.
     
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  17. gator_fever

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    They sure get away with a lot in those administrative hearings to revoke licenses. Some of those make a mockery of even civil law.
     
  18. cjgator76

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    Probably closer to six years, depending on when the elections officials send out the notice.

    From the syllabus accompanying the SCOTUS decision:

    Edit: The majority opinion mentions the six year time frame:

     
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  19. G8trGr8t

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    Maybe it should. Perhaps we wouldn't end up with the shill vs the chump:ninja2:
     
  20. PerSeGator

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    Seems reasonable to me. If you haven't voted in six years, it's not particularly surprising that you would need to re-register.
     
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