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school closures harmed american education

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by buckeyegator, May 15, 2023.

  1. QGator2414

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    This was a very nice way to put it. Reality might get you a few days off lol…
     
  2. jjgator55

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    If that’s the best you got then I’ll let you have the last word.
     
  3. gator95

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    Thanks for proving my point.
     
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    If your point is that you post like a 90’s vol fan whining that you’re the better team despite getting your butt kicked by the Gators, then you’re welcome.
     
  6. gator95

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    When you can’t refute facts you just look bad Karen. Be better.
     
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    Get back to us when you actually find “facts” to refute Terry.
     
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  8. gator95

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    Look at post 364 Karen.
     
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    Yes I had a good laugh over that article. The article, and the study, painted with a very broad brush by selecting just NY 12th graders, failing to see if the same thing was occurring in other parts of the country. They failed to mention the parents responsibility in getting their children to school. They also failed to mention that there are no attendance requirements for graduation in New York, and that graduation rates were actually higher.

    So now you want to use that failed study as evidence that shutting down schools because of Covid is the reason students decide to skip school. What you posted wasn’t facts, it was a mixture of half-truths, lies by omission, and pure speculation.
     
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    Ah, the old I don’t like what that data says so I’ll ignore it routine. Too funny. Thanks for playing Karen.
     
  12. jjgator55

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    I didn’t ignore it, I provided a critique of it. The only facts the study provided were as follows:
    *Students were NYC seniors.
    *They weren’t attending school like they were prior to the Covid shutdown.

    That’s pretty much it. Therefore post hoc, ergo propter hoc, a correlational fallacy. It’s like saying that overweight people go on diets, therefore diets cause people to be fat. So it’s not that I don’t like the data, the problem is it’s not complete enough to draw the conclusion you think it does in order to make your point.
     
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    Oh, ok. I like how you are downplaying it. Good try. Not a good look trying to lie about the data in there. There is all grade data right there. I'm sure you just missed it...

    Black students in all grades missed 50% of classes, Hispanic students 47%. Those are alarming numbers to anyone not in the teachers unions pockets. Says a lot about you.

    • By grade level, 12th-graders had the worst chronic absenteeism last year — 55.9%, up from 43.7% pre-pandemic. “It’s a number that’s difficult to fathom, and policymakers should be treating this as an emergency,” Kingsbury told The Post.
    • By race in all grades, black students had the highest rate of chronic absenteeism — 49.8%, compared to 34.3% pre-pandemic; followed by Hispanic kids, 47.2% (up from 31.8%); white kids, 30.2% (up from 17.1%), and Asian-American students, 23.1% (up from 13.3%).
    • After the Bronx, absenteeism by borough was worst in Manhattan, 42% (up from 27%); Brooklyn, 40% (up from 26%); Staten Island, 39% (up from 24%), and Queens, 36% (up from 22%).
    • Among students with disabilities, a staggering 51.9% were chronically absent compared to 31.7% pre-pandemic. English learners: 41% (up from 28%). Kids in poverty: 45% (up from 30.4%).
     
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    Oh, and the masking of 2 year old's was by far the dumbest thing done during the pandemic, and that's saying something. Anyone with a brain knows:
    1. Masks don't work
    2. Even if you think they do, they sure won't fit a 2 year old.
    3. If you think they should've been masked, you are dumb.

    If Your Toddler Isn’t Talking Yet, the Pandemic Might Be to Blame

    In analysis of nearly 2.5M children under 5, researchers found that for each year of age, first-time speech delay diagnoses increased by an average of 1.6X between 2018-19 and 2021-22.
     
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  15. gator95

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    Oh, and more data showing schools shouldn't have been closed. Shocker...

    Inga belägg för att stängda skolor minskade smittspridning av covid-19

    • Regardless of closed or open schools, the spread of infection among children and young people has mainly followed the spread in the adult population. This suggests that school closures have not affected the spread of infection to a large extent, and that the spread of infection between students has also occurred in places other than the school.
     
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    And what does any of that have to do with the Covid school closures? Whiny attacks aside you still haven’t made the connection between absenteeism in a city that doesn’t require attendance to graduate, and the school shutdown in the city. Further how can the connection, if any, be proven the same as the rest of the state, let alone the country?
     
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    I’d be posting links to articles written in another language too since you’re flailing around so much.
     
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    What does that have to do with school closures? Seriously? Having schools closed to in person learning showed kids they don't need to go to school. So they don't anymore and the increase is huge. I get that you are trying to wish this away as having nothing to do with the school closures, but that is frankly an unintelligent argument.
     
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    I didn't realize you couldn't click the "Google Translate" button. Should've realized that is above your ability. My bad.
     
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