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Russia Getting Tired of Assad and Syria

Discussion in 'GatorNana's Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by chemgator, May 10, 2020.

  1. chemgator

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    After Five Bloody Years in Syria, Russia Is Turning Against Iran—and Assad

    It turns out that Assad is very corrupt and very much willing to kill his own people to get what he wants. I assume Putin can appreciate a certain amount of homicidal bent to get things done, but Assad apparently goes way beyond the Russian standard. And Assad's system for getting things done (it's hard to call it a government at this point) involves his cronies pocketing money left and right. At one point, Assad lied to his people, claiming shortages of fuel to explain electricity outages, while he was selling electricity to Lebanese businesses.

    Iran is also involved, as it wants to use Syria to lure the U.S. in to kill more Americans.

    If the U.S. ever goes to Syria, the troops should stop in Tehran on the way over there.
     
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  2. VAg8r1

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  3. woollybooger

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    Wait, are you implying that maybe Trump was right in the way he has handled things in Syria. Maybe he gave Russia enough rope to just let them get entangled in the middle east mess instead of us. Nah, he is to dumb to ever do something that smart, just saying...……...
     
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  4. chemgator

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    I have never been one to say that Trump was all-stupid in his decision-making. At best, he is 50-50, however. It's good to give him some credit, because for a lot of his foreign policy, the Dimwit Donald was a genius compared to Oscillating Obama (or is it Bluffing Barack?), who helped create the Syrian apocalypse among other disasters.
     
  5. G8trGr8t

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    Perhaps Putin has decided he would rather back a Turkish influenced regime in Syria than an Alawite one. He can defend his naval base without defending Assad and get rights for airbase from Turkish backed government. And he can squeeze Iran if he wants to, especially with oil crashed like it is. He isn't getting any younger and his patience may be wearing thin if TASS is publishing this. One can only imagine that Putin has already told this story many times to Assad and his circle and that they aren't listening. This should push the dissident members of the Alawite tribe to step forward, if any are left..Assad is even too brutal for Putin...
     
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  6. Gatorrick22

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    Trump did the right thing NOT to get involved in the money pit... arm pit of the world.
     
  7. VAg8r1

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    I actually tend to agree. Apparently Erdogan and Putin are becoming natural allies and both are playing Trump to their mutual advantage. Erdogan purchased a Russian air defense system and Russia and Turkey were both beneficiaries of Trump's decision to pull American troops from Syria. It was after Erdogan persuaded Trump to pull the US troops that Russia was able to acquire the former US bases.

    Russians Take Over 3rd U.S. Base in Northern Syria
     
  8. G8trGr8t

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    I guess I should have kept reading. It appears that Putin has a separate champion within the Alawite tribe. I have to wonder how long before Assad or Iran tries to take Makhlouf out.


    Rami Makhlouf, who is in fact Bashar al-Assad’s first cousin, is Syria’s wealthiest man, and also, it would seem, Russia’s man. Certainly he has strong ties to the Kremlin and for years has been one of the most vocal critics of Iran’s presence in Syria. In July 2018, the al-Watan newspaper, one Syria’s most prominent pro-regime mouthpieces and owned by Rami Makhlouf since 2006, published a then unprecedented public rebuke to Iran, accusing it of sponsoring Islamist fanaticism throughout the Middle East alongside Turkey and Qatar, the main backers of Syria’s opposition. (Rami Makhlouf’s father Muhammad and brother Hafiz meanwhile are alleged by some to be living in Russia.)

    The April 17 articles published by Prigozhin’s FNA preceded the release of a wave of other articles and items in the media over the next 12 days that would further drive home the point that Moscow was considering options other than Assad to rule Syria.

    TASS, Russia’s largest state-run news agency, wrote in one editorial that, “Russia suspects that Assad is not only unable to lead the country anymore, but also that the head of the Syrian regime is dragging Moscow towards the Afghani scenario.” This is like evoking the Vietnam War for an American audience, a reference to the Kremlin’s botched campaign through the 1980s that helped bankrupt the Soviet Union and finally break it apart.
     
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