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Russia Backs Trump’s Re-election

Discussion in 'GatorNana's Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Feb 20, 2020.

  1. sierragator

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    They'll get their talking points from the Trump rally tonight and from the next episode of Hannity, until then a bit of wandering will occur. Mileage may vary.....
     
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  2. ValdostaGatorFan

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    Bro... Not everything is a Hoax.

    Russian Collusion was not a hoax.
    Ukraine was not a hoax.
    Impeachment was not a hoax.
    Vindman testimony was not a hoax.
    Climate change is not a hoax.
    Democrats are not a hoax (whatever that means).
    Quid Pro Quo was not a hoax.
    The whistleblower was not hoax.
    Everything Schiff does is not a hoax.
    Intelligence Agencies are not a hoax.
    The FBI is not a hoax.


    https://www.gatorcountry.com/swampgas/search/69846482/?q=hoax&o=date&c[node]=23&c[user][0]=22341
     
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  3. BigCypressGator1981

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    If you removed "hoax", "crooked" and "joke" from fever's lexicon his posts would be unintelligible.
     
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  4. gator7_5

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    So, he really hasn’t. Got it.
     
  5. ShaneCody

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    Trump 2020. He will be re-elected and America will continue to prosper. Love it!
     
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  6. gator_fever

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  7. g8rjd

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    Look at that! Trump is telling you what to believe!
     
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  8. gator_fever

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    Trump is right. We have these deep state and elected Democrat clowns making up nonsense while they wont even count the votes right because they are trying to slow down Bernie.

    Next they will tell us "Operation Chaos" in SC is a Russian Operation.
     
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  9. gator_fever

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    lol The same intelligence agencies that already pulled one hoax/coup attempt with fake Russian mess set up by their own inserted plants. The same ones that committed fraud on the FISA Court based on that fake news to spy on Trump and his associates illegally.
     
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  10. g8rjd

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    I’m eagerly anticipating hearing you say “Trump is wrong.”
     
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  11. BigCypressGator1981

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    40% of the country thinks the intelligence community is a corrupt extension of the Democratic Party.

    Putin is playing Trump like a piano to shake America's faith in our government institutions. Truly scary stuff.
     
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  12. gatorpa

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    I wonder when Putin's long play with Trump is going to pay off for him?

    Exactly where has Putin run ram shod over Trump?

    Oh they did annex Crimea, but wait that was under Obama....
     
  13. gatorpa

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    To quote a former POTUS... "The 80's called they want their foreign policy back"
    "After the election I'll have more flexibility".
     
  14. dangolegators

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    It's been paying off for him since January 2017. Trump immediately started undermining NATO. Trump accepts what Putin tells him over what our intelligence agencies tell him. Trump demands private meetings with Putin where no other US official is present. Trump cedes Syria to Putin. Trump undermines Ukraine with demands that they announce investigations into Biden if they want military aid. The list goes on.

    And here's a long list of all the nice things Trump has said about Putin and it only runs through early 2017.

    80 times Trump talked about Putin
     
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  15. gatorpa

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    Obama set up Syria for Russia with his "Arab Spring" and then left them to Assad and Russia.

    So where has Putin done anything that the US needed to and didn't intervene?

    All you've done is show Trump blowing smoke up his ass..
     
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  16. benheb

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    Did Qanon tell you to say that?
     
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  17. dangolegators

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    Putin has gotten Trump to undermine his own intelligence agencies by favoring what Putin tells him over our own intelligence. Putin told Trump Ukraine was responsible for the Dem server hack and Trump sent US officials to Ukraine to try to get them to look for the server. That's nuts.
     
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  18. benheb

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    He's been doing this crap since day one. The Russians are shooting at our troops daily and you'll get some idiot on here talking about how it isn't that bad, Obama blah blah this. Disgusting, despicable, and we should get in their face every time they do it.
     
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  19. mdgator05

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    The problem is that you are thinking about Russia as a standard country. It isn't. It is a kleptocracy. Specifically, it is a country built around the notion that they can finance any number of criminal activities. They are the bank of the illegal economy. Putin supports Trump specifically because he is a threat to a Western liberal (small l) understanding of international economics that actively tries to root out corruption and economically cooperates across borders in doing so. The turning point in US Russian relations wasn't Crimea. The turning point was the Panama Papers, when the Russians, perhaps rightly as it is still not clear how it happened, thought that Western intelligence, especially the US, exposed a lot of their shady systems to fund the global illegal economy. That was when the Russians decided to move from a system in which they were on a small-scale being disruptive to Western institutions and moved to being large-scale disruptive. Heavy investments into Trump, Brexit, Le Pen in France, the separatists in Spain, the League (and to a lesser degree the Five Star movement) in Italy, AfD in Germany, etc.

    What is it that he wants for this disruption? Less Western focus on international criminal activity, especially in terms of where the money goes in the end. The weakening of international ties between liberal countries is key to this goal.

    Look who Trump hired. Look who he pardoned. These are not coincidental. Putin wants somebody transactional in motivation that doesn't think self-enriching is a really big problem. He found that person.
     
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  20. tampagtr

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    There were 3 parts to the quid pro quo for election assistance.
    1. Recognition of the annexation of Crimea. Trump keep saying he wants to, but so far he hasn't felt he has the political capital. But make no mistake - the American President even entertaining the possibility is a big coup for Russia - Trump Leaves Open Possibility of Recognizing Crimea's Annexation

    2. Ending Magnitsky sanctions - he's tried and lifted some. On others, Congress has tied his hands

    January 27, 2019 : Trump Administration Lifts Sanctions on Firms Tied to Deripaska - The Moscow Project

    Donald Trump sought to lift sanctions on Russia in the earliest days of his administration

    Trump can lift some Russia sanctions. But it won't be easy.

    3. A modus vivendi on Syria leaving Russia and Assad in the dominant position. Flynn was working on this during the transition, including fighting jointly with Russia. But Trump finally delivered recently after floating the idea numerous time - https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...155302-4414-11e8-ad8f-27a8c409298b_story.html
     
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