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Russia backs Bernie Sanders election

Discussion in 'GatorNana's Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorFanCF, Feb 23, 2020.

  1. demosthenes

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    There was some of that as well. I didn’t vote for her but you could say that the 20-year disinformation campaign against Hillary paid off.
     
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  2. uftaipan

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    Yes, I can agree with that much more than classifying Russia as a totalitarian state. My only point was that totalitarian means something different than what Russia is, not that Russia is “good.”
     
  3. LouisvilleGator

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    The 80's called, they want their foreign policy back.
     
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  4. tampagtr

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    Asking what kind of ad would have swayed you rather missed the point. The better question what type of micro targeted ad could have swayed its intended target, regardless of whether they are aware of it, and possibly only as a necessary but not sufficient cause, only effective in combination with other reinforcement, real or manipulated.

    it also ignores not only ads’ effect on their primary target, but secondary effects in the network. Plus the effect of Wikileaks releases and The Who.e campaign.
     
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  5. sierragator

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    If you think Putin is a friend of the USA you are beyond naive.
     
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  6. nolancarey

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    And Russia is the one that picked up the phone. Only after that do we get the return of Putin, Crimea, bots, the Professor and Mary Ann.
     
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  7. nolancarey

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    The most qualified and experienced candidate since Thomas Jefferson. But I get it, Hamilton and Adams didn't always like Jefferson either.
     
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  8. Gatorrick22

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    Dude, I doubt that Russia prefers Trump over Bernie Sanders. You know Bernie, the same guy that spend his honeymoon in the U.S.S.R. is Putin's favorite.
     
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  9. gator_fever

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    They need to start firing some of these people pushing the establishment deep state political objectives with their BS.
     
  10. cocodrilo

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    Yeah, I can see where Putin would prefer to have a U.S. president who spent his honeymoon in Russia over one whom Putin owns.
     
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  11. uftaipan

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    I think you should google his post to see what he was really trying to say. He might have been, I don’t know, mocking someone who famously said words to that effect when a political opponent publicly warned him of the true threat that Russia posed in 2012. You are correct, though. Anyone who thinks that Putin is not an intelligent and skilled adversary or that they can wish away the threat he poses is willfully naive. And that goes for this president and the two who preceded him. They have all engaged Putin in incredibly stupid and naive ways.
     
  12. ursidman

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    Over 126 million Americans saw the products of the Russian troll farm JUST on Facebook.
    Facebook estimates 126 million people were served content from Russia-linked pages
     
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  13. gator_fever

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  14. duchen

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    Did you read Red Notice?
     
  15. duchen

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    We see their falsehoods and garbage posted here on a college educated board.
     
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  17. duchen

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    Of course, that statement was made in a debate in 2012. Before Magnitsky, Crimea, Eastern Ukraine, the 2016 election interference and the steady deterioration of the relationship with Russia during the Obama Administration after that. It is a History well documented in Michael Mcfual’s book. I am curious why you didn’t mention any of those events and put the statement in context. Well, not really. Sound bite propaganda outside of factual context is the right wing method. Because it is vacuous.
     
  18. duchen

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    No sir. He needs to say what he means. It is not our job to explain it for him. And the Obama Administration shifted track. Until Trump, with all that happened after 2012, defended Putin at places like Helsinki etc.
     
  19. duchen

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    No offense, but you are constantly posting Russian conspiracy theories here. The reason is works it that people don’t know it is a Russian conspiracy theory and they believe it. Remember all the Seth Rich threads here until the exodus?
     
  20. uftaipan

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    You, too, seem to confuse me pointing out that Russia not being a totalitarian state with me saying that Russia is a healthy representative government under the rule of law. It isn’t. But totalitarianism has certain characteristics that don’t apply to Russia, such as leader worship and full subordination of all aspects of society to the State. That describes North Korea, Iran, Baathist Iraq, the Third Reich, the PRC under Mao, Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge, and the Soviet Union under Stalin. There have been lots of authoritarian governments, just as nasty as modern-day Russia, that simply don’t fit the mold of totalitarian governments: Chile under Pinochet, Portugal from WW2 to the 1970s, Egypt under Nasser, Syria under Assad, Saudi Arabia at all times, etc. The poster who described Russia as an “organized crime state” has a much better sense of the ground truth there than the poster who characterized it as totalitarian.