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Russia and Turkey Almost Went to War

Discussion in 'GatorNana's Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by chemgator, Mar 10, 2020.

  1. chemgator

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    Over Idlib, Syria. And it was the Russians who backed down, after seeing Turkish-made drones decimate Syria's tanks. Russia got involved in Syria at least partly to gain experience for their military and test new weapon systems, but they don't want any part of Turkish drones.

    Turkey used a new weapon in Syria that was so effective it looks like Russia won't dare confront Turkey directly

     
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    Yes, I’m sure it was the drones and not Turkey’s membership in NATO that gave Russia pause about whether to engage in general warfare.
     
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    2016 called it wanted a world where we side with NATO over Russia
     
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    1997 called soon after. It wanted to retire that joke over 10 years ago.

     
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  5. duchen

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    Probably a combination of both. Took one look at Turkey’s NATO equipment and membership and thought better of it.
     
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  6. 92gator

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    Wow....no question where you get your *information* from.

    Suggest trying a trough that isn't contaminated with neo-prog agenda driven stupidity.
     
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    As the article correctly points out, Russia could counter the effectiveness of the drone swarm tactics. Drone swarms are of less effectiveness against a first rate foe with air superiority, though they can be formidable. This is an interesting result, but it is unclear how far it can be applied. Also, at least according to the piece, and I await a more sophisticated analysis from a military specific piece by backgrounded authors, the particular technology was Turkish developed and not NATO general, though I have no Ethan all NATO forces have at least comparable technologies.

    We have developed interference technologies, that were supposedly used to down an Iranian drone shadowing a US warship
     
  8. tegator80

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    IMO, Russia doesn't want a real war right now. Sitting on the sidelines and making a mess of the rest of the world seems to be their M.O. for a while.
     
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  9. sierragator

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    Putin is more interested in peeling Turkey away from Nato than he is in going to war with Turkey.
     
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  10. Claygator

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    I didn't realize that Turkey had the largest military among European NATO members. They could prove to be very useful.
     
  11. chemgator

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    Being the largest (by manpower numbers) and most capable are two different things. Turkey almost certainly has the lowest paid soldiers in NATO, and is somewhat technology-limited (partly by budgetary constraints). Obviously, they've developed drones and have some modern fighter jets. They are close enough to the action in the middle east that they have to take defense seriously.