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Republican Values

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Orange_and_Bluke, Jan 10, 2019.

  1. Orange_and_Bluke

    Orange_and_Bluke Premium Member

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    When we look not at states but at counties in the United States, we see that counties that lean Republican across the country as a whole have more marriage, less nonmarital childbearing, and more family stability than counties that lean Democratic. In fact, an Institute for Family Studies report I authored found, “teens in red counties are more likely to be living with their biological parents, compared to children living in bluer counties.” So, even at the community level, the story about marriage and family instability looks a lot different depending on whether or not one is looking at state or county trends. At the county level, then, the argument that Red America is doing worse than Blue America isn’t true.
    No, Republicans Aren’t Hypocrites on Family Values
     
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  2. WarDamnGator

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    You are talking about the citizens of Republican leaning areas, not the Republican leaders you elect. Trump is a 3 time married serial adulterer who brags about sexually assaulting women ... and you all voted for him.
     
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  3. wgbgator

    wgbgator Extremely Online Premium Member

    LOL, I mean Baron Trump is a teen living with his biological parents. How useful is this statement as a measure of 'family values?'
     
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  4. staticgator

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    And Trump lives in a heavy Democratic district so he brings them down with his amorality.
     
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  5. wgbgator

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    Also I'm going to go ahead and dismiss any study that emphasizes partisanship over say, economic & class status as to why people stay married or in stable households. Surely no one would make the argument that Republicans are inherently better at families by virtue of being Republican.
     
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  6. BigCypressGator1981

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    I LOL’d at the thread title.
     
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  7. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Trump is the exception, not the rule. Did you read the article?
     
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  8. gator_lawyer

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    That's a non-sequitur unless they're solely talking about "family values" (unless I missed them analyzing the bunch of other factors that contribute to quality of life). Of course, the question then becomes, "Who defines what 'family values' are?"
     
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  9. gator10010

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    Another thread driven off into the Trump ditch. Well done people. TDS is strong on this board.

    The article clearly states in the first paragraph

    "Plenty of Republican leaders, from Newt Gingrich to Donald Trump to Joe Barton, have failed to practice the values conservatives preach. But are conservatives outside of the political class failing to live up to the family values associated with the right since the 1980s?"

    Clearly, the article is trying to see if members of the Republican party (that aren't in politics) live by their "family values".

    Sorry to get off topic back to bashing Trump....it's worked so well for the Democrats.....carry on.
     
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  10. WarDamnGator

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    In the op it says “republicans aren’t hypocrites” ... my point is maybe in their own lives and how they live, but it is pretty hypocritical to elect a guy like Trump as the leader of the country, then continue to tell us how important family values are.
     
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  11. wgbgator

    wgbgator Extremely Online Premium Member

    He isn't the exception, he's married, and his child lives with both of his biological parents. He's in fact meeting many of the criteria of 'family values' laid out in the article! Only 60% of Republicans are in their first marriage, so even if you want to go the been divorced route, 40% isn't exactly the rare exception.
     
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  12. WarDamnGator

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    The title of this thread is “Republican values”, and you are mad that people are talking about political parties and their leadership in it?
     
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  13. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Ha, Trump used to be a Democrat. You are a broken record, it's not always about him is it?
     
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  14. gator_lawyer

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    Yet, he had to switch parties to get elected . . . . ;)
     
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  15. wgbgator

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    I'm sure if asked, like people in the survey, Trump would say he's 'happily' married.
     
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  16. gator10010

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    No, I'm mad because you didn't read the article and can't seem to stay on topic.

    Back to Trump bashing!!!
     
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  17. wgbgator

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    Oh I see, he became good at marriage when he became a Republican. When he was a Democrat, that's why he cheated and got divorced. That explains everything.
     
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  18. WarDamnGator

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    So you don’t consider who you vote for to be an indication of your values, and how strong of a conviction you have to those values?

    At least in the case of Bill Clinton, people can say they found out after he was elected ... what’s the excuse for Republicans, here?
     
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  19. Orange_and_Bluke

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    You guys are quite unappreciative for all Trump has accomplished for you.
    It's really odd how much hatred you have for the man.
     
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  20. wgbgator

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    Its been great. Dunking on conservatives has never been easier. Thanks for lowering the rims, Mr. Trump.
     
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