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Question about NYC mass shooting

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Spurffelbow833, Jul 29, 2025 at 5:36 AM.

  1. Spurffelbow833

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    How does getting shot in the back by an assailant you either never saw or were running from and who then shot himself make you a hero who saved countless lives? Yet this is the way the media and the NYPD are spinning the narrative. Not saying the cop wasn't brave. Just saying his death was as meaningless as the other 3 victims who were treated like collateral damages while everyone was stepping over each other to gush hyperbole into a microphone about the final moments of the one who wore a uniform to work.

    Here's a print example. Maybe if we stopped trying to find meaning and inspiration in stupid, nihilistic acts, we'd get mad enough to do something to stop them.

    New York shooting UPDATES: Five people dead including hero cop | US | News | Express.co.uk
     
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  2. uftaipan

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    I’ll take a stab at it without knowing any details other than what you just wrote, so pure conjecture on my part. The probable reason the cop was shot first was because he was a cop and presented a threat to the assailant, right? His actions on that particular day might not have been heroic (due to lack of opportunity), but for most of his adult life he volunteered to put the uniform on and protect others. Indeed the bullets he took first may have ended up in other people who did not present as great a threat to the assailant. There were many sailors who died at Pearl Harbor without knowing how or why due to the nature of the surprise attack. But I don’t think we count their sacrifice as less. They still volunteered to put themselves in harm’s way during a dangerous period. I think that is probably more or less the same spirit here.
     
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  3. 92gator

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    Not sure I get the problem. Just donning the uni these days, is heroic.

    NY is kinda' fickle about the NYPD. Some times they're disdained throughout the city (70's, prohibition...).

    Sometimes they are worshipped, like post 9/11, and during Guiliani's reign to recapture NYC and restore L&O, in the 80's....

    In the wake of the Left's 'defund the police' movement, they've been hung out to dry, left largely to maintain L&O with such lethal weapons as their charm, and legal liability hanging over their heads...

    In today's douche bag Lefty dominated evironment...wearing the NYPD uni is as heroic as it gets; like rodeo clowns in the ring, drawing the attention of the bulls, except that it's the running of the bulls in Pamplona...

    I'm all for the media correcting their disgusting error in throwing in with the rabid leftits.

    Back your boys in blue.

    Shit on the Soros funded P'sOS that seek to sow chaos, for political gain.
     
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  4. ATLGATORFAN

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    Same as when a cop is shot in the back when he is writing a ticket for running a stop sign. He’s a hero putting himself in compromising situations for the safety of others. The lengths some go to besmirch law enforcement is bizarre
     
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    The Express is a right-wing tabloid paper, even bad cops are heros to them
     
  8. ATLGATORFAN

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    FIFY
     
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  9. ValdostaGatorFan

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    You sure do think of me, a lot. Weird, but ok.

    I haven't followed this at all and don't know any details except for what's posted here which I briefly skimmed over. I haven't read the link. I guess since you asked, I'll look into it when I get time and give my opinion, so you can inevitably create your own thread on what I say in instead of addressing me directly here, like you did last time.
     
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  10. ValdostaGatorFan

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    Here's my opinion: Tragic.

    An off duty cop was working as a security guard.

    A security guard was shot in the back. Are all security guards heros by default? Do you salute mall cops? Do you thank them for their service?

    Unless he was doing something heroic like trying to get civilians to safety or confronting the bad guy, to me, his death is not much different than the others that died. Are they heros, too, just for the mere fact they died?

    I guess it begs the question, are all cops heroes by default? Is Derek Chauvin a hero? Are the cops that beat that guy to death in Memphis heros? The ones that beat Rodney King? The gypsy cop that shot that woman in the face over the boiled water? (This is where you run and make a thread called Hero Cop does something or another or something to that affect)
     
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  11. orangeblue_coop

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    Certain posters on here don't even think Derek Chauvin did anything wrong.

    Anyway this was a very tragic incident, prayers for those who lost their lives.
     
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    Derek Chauvin didn’t do anything wrong. George Floyd died of Covid and descended to heaven.
     
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  13. gator_jo

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    We need more guns, in order to keep us safe from gun violence. That's why we have so much less gun violence than places like England and Japan, for example. Because our guns keep us safe.

    We don't have enough guns yet, or this wouldn't have happened. But when we do get enough, it will never happen.*




    * because people will be scared that others have guns or something. I think that's how it works.
     
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  14. rivergator

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    The man was an immigrant from Bangladesh, father of two boys and his wife was pregnant with their third child. He was working a shift as a security guard to earn extra money for his family.
    All sounds pretty heroic to me.